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Our Iranian Collegue, Drdavan Shardar MD, homeopathic doctor, has developed a theory of chronic diesease (very close to that of Hahnemann - eeloping the concept along the lines Hahnemann probably would have done, given our present knowledge)

While it is posted fully and in detail on http://minutus.org, those texts take a lot of studying that some of us do not want to or cannot afford to do for an approach that may be completely novel to them.

I therefore wrote a summary, which has been approved by Ardavan's team. All the particulars as to that and other things are written up in the summary itself.

Here it is

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DR. ARDAVAN SHARDAR'S MIASM THEORY.

Ardavan's Miasm theory is part of his general Theory of Chronic
Diseases.



  Ardavan's General Theory of Chronic Diseases.


When an organism encounter a stressor, there is an acute disturbance
in the body which Ardavan calls " Primary state" or "Ponos".The
stressor is some incident on the psychological or the physical level.
In acute illness, this acute disturbance may get resolved. WHERE IT
does the organism returns to the state before the disturbance.

Where this resolution does not happen, either death or chronic illness
occurs. Chronic illness is an adaptive state and is the result of the
hosts' defense mechanisms. Ardavan calls it "Secondary state" or
"Pathos. When no resulution occurs, the body tries to develop ways to
adapt to the compromise in health, in order to survive or , in less
serious cases, in order to achieve the optimum health still
possible. In other words: Chronic diseases are adaptations the body
makes to deal with an 'state" which is still active (the Life Force is
still disturbed) but hidden. Hidden means that there may not be any
symptoms or very few symptoms of the acute disturbance at the time a
homeopath takes the case. Because of the lack or the paucity of
symptoms the homeopath taking the case cannot find a remedy similar to
the root disturbance. This may often be the reason for the fact that
apparently well selected  remedies  do not cure -  where the symptoms
of the "Secondary state" are different from those of the "Primary
state". One has to prescribe on the symptoms of the primary state or
on symptoms that are indicative of the primary state.

Above theory is applicable in all "true" chronic diseases. It covers
not only chronic diseases caused by e. g. physical or psychological
trauma but also chronic miasmatic diseases.

Thus in Ardavan's General Theory of Chronic Diseases this "Primary
state" or "Ponos" has three possible outcomes:

1- Either it gets resolved ---> the patient is returned to his
previous state of health
or
2- The patient dies
or
3- The state turns chronic, which is the "Secondary state" or
"Pathos".

In those cases where the symptoms of the pathos  resemble those of the
ponos, a remedy chosen on the symptoms of the pathos may also
resolve the ponos, and the chronic disease gets cured.

But in those where the symptoms of the "Pathos" are somewhat to
totally different from those of the "Ponos", the remedy selected by
the symptoms of the pathos will not resolve the ponos state and
therefore may not cure the chronic disease.

So, in cases #where the well-selected remedies" fail, we should try
and find out the symptoms of the "Primary state" or "Ponos".


A SAMPLE CASE OF NON-MIASMATIC CHRONIC DISEASE TREATED ON THE SYMPTOMS
OF THE PONOS.

The following is a case of  chronic non-miasmatic disease, which
Ardavan demonstrated at a seminar in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.,

A case of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder):

Girl 19 y/o
Anxiety
Hypochondriacal
FEAR OF AIDS (No history of sexual contact)
Compulsion to do AIDS test
Irritability
Wants assurance but soon gets worried again
No physical complaints
Here is a repping of only one sx , fear of aids,
Fear of AIDS
Ars, Bor-pur, Calc, Carc, Con, Iod, Kali-ar, Nit-ac, Phos,
Sulph, Syph.

Taking into account the other symptoms, Ars. Phos. Syph were left,
which did not cure.

When he symptoms were repped leaving out the rubric fear of AIDS,
there came up:

Arg-n, Nit-ac,
which also did not cure.

Ardavan is of the opinion that in most of OCD-cases there is an
underlying condition of anxiety and feeling of guilt, and he reasoned
that there
must have been an incident in the past that caused such a feeling. He
further reasoned that this had been the primary state, that at the
time of the case-taking the symptoms were those of the secondary
state, which no longer were similar to those of the primary state. In
order to cure, the primary state had to be cured, to do so the remedy
had to be similar to the symptoms of the primary state - so the
primary state had to be found.

It turned out to have been as follows:
5 years ago she had a secret love affair with a friend of her uncle
with the following effects to her behaviour:

Secretive
Hiding
Paranoidal behaviour
Delusion of being watched
Fear of being punished
Fear of offending and losing her uncle forever

Based on those symptoms Ardavan prescribed Hyoscyamus C 200, and soon
improvement started.

Ardavan's Theory of Miasms

Ardavan's Theory of Miasms is part of the General Theory of Chronic
Disease as presented in the very digested (and therefore
very imperfect) paragraph above. Please do read Suriya's article in
....... and Ardavan's full explanation on
http://minutus.org. for
better understanding.

ardavan's theory has some parts in common with hahnemann's.

in line with Hahnemann  is:

He dedines Miasm as an infectious, contagious disease.

 

Just as the founder of homeopathy he also considers its pathogenic
action to be a dynamic  influence causing disturbance of the dynamic
life force.

by Ardavan's theory as by Hahnemann's miasms can be inherited.

Different is:

Hahnemann thought that the dynamic action worked directly; e.g. there
would emanate from the patient ill with smallpox a dynamic force
directly affecting the life-force of a different person over a
distance, without any material carrier; just the way the gravity of
the moon influences the waters of the oceans or a magnet influences
the needle of a compass.

In Ardavan's theory the pathogenic dynamic force is encorporated in or
carried by a microbe.

Hahnemann thought that there were just 3 such pathogenic energies that
could cause chronic miasms: the pathogens causing psora, sycosis and
syphilis.

By Ardavan's model all pathogenic strains of virus can do so. (as far
as the rest  of pathogenic microbes is concerned the theory has not
yet been fully developed.)

According to Ardavan's theory, a miasm is always an infection .  In
modern medical terminology infection is defined as  „invasion of the
tissues of the body by disease-producing microorganisms and the
reaction of these tissues to the microorganisms and/or their toxins".

Thus: Miasms are always caused by infection with pathogenic microbes
to which the body reacts in a way specific for the microbe and also
specific to the person so infected (individual response).

At first there occurs the acute miasm.

This acute state may be long or short. Its manifestations may range
from very severe to trivial, they often include fever, skin eruptions
or discolorations, bowel symptoms etc. Sometimes, however, the
manifestations are so slight that they pass unnoticed. These
differences show the individual response of the individual person and
also the response typical for the invading pathogen.

In Ardavan's Miasm Theory, this "Primary state" has in common the same
3 things as the non-miasmatic primary state:

1- Full recovery which is usually seen in Acute miasms

2- Death

3-Becomes chronic, shich is called #Chronic Miasm".


For cases where there is a history of Viral Miasm, Ardavan has
developed his Materia virosa (MV). This can be studied on
Ardavan's site, minutus.org.

There Ardavan has used his knowledge of viral diseases and their
manifestations and listed the typical signs and symptoms of each
specific viral infection. On the basis of these, he then selected by
similarity to this ponos-state a group of remedies similar to those
typical manifestations. Those groups so far range roughly from 5 to
20 remedies.

Homeopaths can use it online to try out the theory (and please let
Ardavan know the results!)


If, after studying online you think that you would like to study this
approach more thoroughly but do not want to be online for the
studying, you can also buy the MV at moderate price (which I do not
recall but you can easily find out) as a .pdf file. And if, like
myself, you find the format cumbersome - e. g. hard to run a search
through - you can combine it into one big .html file and even from
there convert it to your favorite text processing system.

Additionally to the MV and accompanying it, Ardavan also has
developed a Repertorium virosum (RV). One format of this is also .pdf
and available online and can also be bought as a .pdf file. He has
also developed a repertorizing software. While this is more expensive
it may suit many homeopaths better.

This repertory may be helpful in those cases, where the patient
remembers some symptoms of his ponos miasmatic state but does not
know which virus caused it. With the multitude that may have caused
infection, it might be quite complicated to find antibodies by blood
tests. The symptoms remembered by the patient may not be numerous
enough to select a remedy from the multitude of rubrics in our
repertories with their even greater number of remedies. Since in the
RV there are only the symptoms of the ponos states of viral infections
and only the remedies of their respective genus epidemicus, it may be
easier to select the a good simile from those much reduced numbers of
rubrics and remedies.

Some hints to when it may be found useful.

E. G. you may have a NWS (never well since) case and the patient still remembers his
symptoms. Looking up the virus that caused the infection, you find say
10 remedies that ,according to Ardavan's knowlege, are genus
epidemicus for this infection. So, in order to find the closest
simillimum, you only have to compare the patient's symptoms of the
ponos with those 10 remedies - instead of worrying about our entire
mm. often such a nws state exists after vaccination.

This is even more important if a person knows of an infection by a specific viral pathogen but does not remember individual symptoms or
even symptoms at all. Viral infections quite often pass unnoticed. So
the homeopath is confronted with a chronic illness where well selected
remedies do not cure. In the past there was this infection. We then
have another chance. We can look up the virus in Ardavan's MM virosa
and see whether any of the handful of remedies listed there may, for
one reason or other, seem a good choice.

When the patient does not remember any previous infections or when the
infection has occurred in the parent, we can sometimes find it by
looking up   symptoms of the present chronic state with the help of
the repertorium virosa. this we can do in cases where the symptoms of
the present state are similar to those of the primary state.  We can
then look up the present symptoms in the repertory virosa. This leads
us to the most probable viral infection responsible for the chronic
state. then we can proceed as described in the previous paragraph. For
example the patient has Multiple Sclerosis and he/she does not
remember any previous infection but beside MS he/she has Urticaria,
recurrent fiver blister and Bell's palsy. By help of RV we can find
that Herpes virus has a important role in formation of the patient
multiple sclerosis.

Sometimes there exist in the present chronic state symptoms that are
„indicative" of a probable ponos. An example that most homeopaths are
familiar with is that herpes zoster is indicative of the
varicella zoster virus
that causes chicken pox, so that very probably there was an infection
with this disease in the past or in a direct ancestor. in these
cases also we can look up the virus causing chicken pox in the RV and
check the remedies listed for the virus in the MV.

In most cases, however, it takes more knowledge and exprience than the
average homeopath, including the wirter of this article, may possess
to come to valid conclusions which of the present symptoms are
indicative for which primary state.

His, however, is true for every method. For demonstration how the method can work for a doctor who masters it, here is one of the case Dr. Moradi has posted on

http://minutus.org/library/article_showall.asp?cat_id=68& ;parent_id=6&parent_name=Cases&sub_name=Nader+Moradi


(copied with the permission of the author)



A Case of ADHD by Nader Moradi, MD, DIHom (pract), CSHom

آ 

آ 

This is a case of 9 years old boy with diagnosis of AD/HD. He takes Ritalin 40mg daily.

آ 

During case taking the child was very calm and cooperative and his mother talked about his behavioral problems.

آ 

From first year of school, his parents noticed that he has no concentration at school and when studying he read a word, then went around the room and after that sat for another word. Then he became so hyperactive that he could not sit for a moment and had to jump and run in the house. Because of this his parent had to take him to a psychiatrist and Ritalin was prescribed. Now when not taking Ritalin his behavior and personality changes completely and becomes very impolite and speaks incessantly.

آ 

His other symptoms are:


Profuse saliva - so much that when talking his saliva flies out. When he was little child he used to spit in face of people!

آ 

During eating he has to hold foods in his mouth and then swallow it in one go!

آ 

Before taking Ritalin, he always bit other children and had teeth grinding during sleep.

آ 

3-4 times in a week he usually wakes up suddenly and looks at a corner and shakes his hand in such way that one thinks he wants to bite his hand and screams and shouts: ?mother, keep me it wants to bite me!?

He always refuses to look at mirror and before taking Ritalin he was very sensitive to noise and light.

When I asked his mother about his fears? He himself said rapidly: From Dark!

He had no other remarkable symptoms except high fever during acute diseases.

آ 

Case Analysis:

As there was no turning point in the case and the patient had very high fever during acute diseases I thought Viral miasms may play a major role in the case. Therefore I selected the following rubrics and repertorized them using Reperorium Virosa:

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MIND - Personality changes

MIND -آ  Biting

MIND - Fear - mirror reflection

MIND -آ  Hyperactivity

MIND - Light agg

MIND - Restlessness

MIND - Spitting of saliva

MOUTH - Saliva, increased

آ 

The result was RBS (Rhabdoviruses)

آ 

Here is its Materia Virosa:

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Rhabdoviruses (RBS)

آ آ 

Main Regions: Nervous system, Mind, Respiration, Heart.

آ آ 

Mind:آ 

Hydrophobia. Agitation. Hyperactivity. Impaired cognition. Aeorophobia. Barking. Biting. Coma. Confusion. Delirium wild. Delusions. Aggravation from strong light. Aggravation from reflection from mirror. Personality change. Rage. Spitting of saliva. Aggravation from sight and sound of water.

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Head: Headache.

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Eye:آ  Anisocoria. Dilated pupils.

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Mouth: Saliva abundant, viscid.

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Throat:آ 

Choking sensation. Discomfort. Spasm from exposure to water. Difficult swallowing liquids. Impossible swallowing. Making strange voices in throat.

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Stomach: Vomiting.

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Abdomen: GI bleeding. Ileus.

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Rectum: Diarrhea.

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Chest: Arrhythmia. Bradycardia. Failure congestive. Myocarditis.

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Respiration: Apnea. Distress. Hyperventilation. Short inspiration. Tachypnea.

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Male organs: Priapism. Ejaculation spontaneous.

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Extremities: Weakness. Quadriparesis.

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Back: Cervical rigidity.

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Skin: Paresthesia. Pilorection.

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Fever: Fever.

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Perspiration: Increased.

آ آ 

General:آ 

Paralysis. Rigidity. Spasms muscular. Guillain - Barre syndrome. Hypotension. Malaise. Myoedema. Sight and sound of water agg. Light agg. Reflection of light in mirror agg. Seizure.

آ 

Main antimiasmatic remedies:آ 

STRAM, LYSS, BELL, LACH, Cupr, Hyos, Nux - v, Phos, Sulph, Verat.

آ 

Related remedies:آ  Puls, Lyc, Rhus-t, Calc, Bry, Ars, Sep, Merc, Sil.

آ 

آ 

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For individualized repertorisation following rubrics were selected:

آ 

MIND - MOOD - changeable
MIND - BITING
MIND - FEAR - mirrors in room, of
MIND - RESTLESSNESS
MIND - FEAR - dark, of
MIND - LIGHT - aversion to
MIND - SPITTING
MOUTH - SALIVATION - profuse

The remedy that came out was Stram.

آ 

Based on the result of individualized repertorisation by RADAR 9.0 آ and main antimiasmatic remedies of RBS, STRAMONIUM 1M, 5 cc from 120 cc was prescribed and Ritalin was discontinued.

آ 

Two weeks after prescription his mother called up and said that his condition is very good and that he no longer experienced nightmares. That he was very calm even in a party. His saliva is normal and fear of dark is decreased.

Up to now he has not any symptoms of AD/HD. Before treatment any decrease in DOSE of Ritalin brought back the symptoms very quickly.



also there probably are some to many cases where there exist neither
similarity of the pathos to the ponos nor any indicative symptoms.


Here also one of Nader's cases illustrates how we can find the remedy by using the MV.

Following is a case of 41 years old man with history of infertility of about 11 years.

His chief complains was Oligoasthenospermia.

Total Sperm count was <10 million per ml, Normal morphology 20%, Abnormal Morphology 80%, Rapid progression 10%, Slow progression 30 and none motile 60%.

He had experience of failed IUI and GIFT.

Beside infertility he had sadness, restlessness, absentmindedness and became angry from time to time.

During the case-taking the following symptoms were also given:

Protruding hemorrhoid from childhood, which is better now but with attack of burning pain 1-2 times in a month.

Perspiration during sleep.

Pain in left upper limbs occasionally.

Cracking in knees.

Sexual desire decreased.

Hearing is slightly impaired in both ears.

Rumbling in abdomen with diarrhea from time to time.

Constipation.

Case Analysis:

As there was no clear picture in the case and on the other hand one of the viral diseases which has strong relationship with infertility is Mumps therefore I looked at Materia virosa of MMP:

Mumps Virus (MMP)

 Main Regions

Parotid gland, Testis, Ovaries, Abdomen.

 Mind

Aphasia. Altered consciousness.

 Vertigo

Vertigo.

 Head

Encephalitis. Meningitis. Headache. Pressing pain.

 Face

Palsy. Parotitis. Swelling and tenderness of parotids. Trismus. Difficult mastication.

 Eye

Inflammation. Lachrymation.

Vision

Dim.

 Ear

Deafness. Pain.

 Nose

Coryza. Catarrh. Epistaxis.

 Mouth

Difficult pronunciation. Sialadenitis sublingual, submandibular. Sialectasia.

Swelling of tongue.

 Throat

Thyroiditis. Dryness.

External throat

Cervical lymphadenopathy.

Stomach

Vomiting. Eructations.

Abdomen

Upper abdominal discomfort. Hepatitis. Pain lower abdominal. Pancreatitis. epigastrial tenderness.

Chest

Endocardial fibroelastosis. Myocarditis.

Cough

Night.

Extremities

Arthritis monoarticular. Migratory polyarthritis. Involuntary movements. Paresis. Coldness of foot.

Kidney

Nephritis.

 

Female organs

Impaired fertility. Death of fetus. Mastitis. Premature menopause. Oophoritis.

 

Male organs

Epididymitis. Erythema of scrotum. Orchitis. Testicular malignancy. Pain in testis. Tenderness of testis. Swelling of testis. Prostatitis.

Fever

Fever.

 

Chill

Chill.

Sleep

Sleeplessness.

 General

Anorexia. Arthralgia. Cerebellar ataxia. Juvenile diabetes mellitus. Guillain-Barre syndrome. Lethargy. Low birth weight. Malaise. Ascending polyradiculitis. Psychomotor retardation. Seizure. Transverse myelitis. Thrombocytopenia. Burning pain. Stitching pain. Evening agg.

 Main antimiasmatic remedies

 BELL, PULS, MERC, Con, Phyt, Aur, Sil, Bar-m.

Related remedies

Sulph, Lyc, Calc, Phos, Sep, Rhus-t.

On reviewing materia virosa of MMP I noticed that one of my patient’s symptoms is impaired hearing which could be due to MMP too, therefore I decided to focus on main antimiasmatic remedies of MMP in remedy selection.

Of course there are other symptoms in the case that are not in the picture of MMP but if you study Materia virosa of viral states you will notice that they belong to HSV2. 

Therefore it seemed that the case had two dynamisms: 1- MMP and 2- HSV2 and as the main complaint of the patient was Infertility therefore MMP could be more active than HSV2.

In the next step I decided to find which one of the main antimiasmatic remedies of MMP suit the case.

I selected following rubrics:

MALE GENITALIA/SEX - SEXUAL DESIRE - diminished

HEARING - IMPAIRED

MIND - SADNESS

MIND - RESTLESSNESS

PERSPIRATION - SLEEP - during

EXTREMITIES - COLDNESS - Toes

EXTREMITIES - PAIN - Upper limbs - left

VERTIGO – VERTIGO

I did not select rubrics which are also present in HSV2. By restricting the result to only main antimaismatic remedies of MMP, Conium was selected.

The above rubric give us the choice of the following remedies:

Sulph, Lyc, Ferr, Con, chinin-s agar.

Crossing this with the remedies related to MMR, only leaves CONIUM.

Conium CM (2 ml from 120 ml of solution), one dose was prescribed. The result of semen analysis in the next month was:

Sperm Count: 40 mil/ml, Normal form >65% which was in normal range, Rapid progressive 55%  (>50% is good)

Next prescription: Wait

20 days after second visit his wife got pregnant.


For those of us who cannot yet work as expertly as Nader with the MV and RV
there may sometimes exist some workarounds, as it is called in
computer-lingo.

One such workaround is the consideration that at the bottom of the
pathos there may be vaccination, even in those cases where there was
no NWS-syndrome. looking up the pathogens vaccinated against in the
MV, we may, at least in the cases of vaccination against virus, read
the respective parts of the MV and find some possible similar symptoms
in the present state - symptoms we might otherwise have overlooked.
aAother possibility is that the mother or the patient her/himself may
remeber: oh yes, i had symptoms like that right after vaccination.

The latter would of course not necessarily mean that the symptoms after
vaccination, while they most likely were some ponos, are at the root
of the present pathos. it might, however, be worth an attempt to treat on this
assumption, especially if the case has been dragging on
without cure or has been stuck for a while.

The same applies to laboratory findings indicating that there had been
an infection by a certain virus in the past, showing up mostly in
either antibodies or antigen in the blood.



CONCLUSION:


I could not have written this summary, the way it is written above, without the generous help of Suriya Osman MD and Nader Moradi MD, who both know a lot more about Ardavan's method than I will ever learn. This final version of my text „passed their inspection“ except for the last paragraph. Nader insists this would not be a good way to work. While I agree that it may not be optimal, I do consider it an acceptable workaround – which are never optimal – for people without his background to employ at the beginning. In order to find out whether it can be considered part of Ardavan's theory, you, the reader, will have to study that – which I hope you will do. I myself think it is at least in accordance with it.

So far Ardavan has not published anything on infections by non-viral
pathogens, except as mentioned in his Theory of Chronic Diseases,
where he very lucidly talks about infection with the gonorrhea and
syphilis pathogens, resp. their connection with Hahnemann's ideas on the chrnoic syphilis and Sycosis miasms.

Ardavan and the members of his team are of the the opinion that most miasmatic
diseases are due to viral miasms. On proceding on this assumption they have found the MV and RV
are very useful in practice.

This many of us cannot really verify until we know more more than just
the above about how to find a ponos by the symptoms of the pathos.
Ardavan has said that he is working on it, and that in the near future
relevant symptoms of pathos will also be included in the MV and the
RV.


To me, who I call myself somewhat tongue in cheek a „theoretical homeopath“ Ardavans Miasm Theory appears to be the logical next step to what Hahnemann wrote in his Chronic Diseases, taking into account the additional knowledge we have no in biology, physiology, virology, genetics etc.







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Dear members

first of all it should be noted, that the term MIASMA describes every disease which can be transmitted from Human to human, or animal to human, or human to animals.

The transmission can be by means of any means, to know the coincidental increase of a certain bacteria or virus is irrelevant.

According to Hahnemanns earlier knowledge, there were 2 chronic miasms known: sycosis and Syphilis.

Hahnemann then observed and sort of found? A third CMD which he called Psora. He attributed everything chronic progredient to it which was not syphilitic or Sycotic and also went so far to say, that if a remedy was used being classed as an anti psoric with success, then the case must have been psoric, only the patient had forgotten the primary infestation with scabies mites.

 

He drew up a symptom picture of the latent and active psora. Using these symptoms most of the common chronic ailments from tuberculosis to cancer fit and are recognized as psoric expressions.

 

IMO:  My observations do not support Hahnemann’s assumption, that a case must be psoric, only because a remedy which he classed as an anti-psoric has brought the case forward.

I have seen many psoric cases (diagnosed by comparison of their history and current disease-symptom-picture) greatly improved by remedies out of the non-psoric class.this may be due to, that Hahnemanns list of antipsorics is incomplete., I don’t see, that such a clear classification is possible. Hahnemann just tells us that it is left to the master to classify remedies, but does not give us sufficient pointers as to how he did it.

If he did it by outcome, Pulsatilla and Staphysagria would be anti=psorics, if he did it by symptom comparison (similar to epedemics) Pulsatilla and Staphysagria would be classed as anti psorics too.  Fact is that he did not.

Even Hahnemann changed his mind about a few remedies, which were listed and then got delisted.

 

But if the classification is doubtful, and the class of antipsorics was already more than 40 remedies at Hahnemann’s times, what significance if any would a diagnosis of psora in a patient have?  Under current circumstances, the selection would be in no way easier,  --.

And wasn’t it Hahnemann himself who spoke out loud against prescribing by disease names??

 

So – if Hahnemanns chronic miasmatic diseases classification was already confusing, unsure and too wide to have any significant effect for the remedy selection, how can Ardavans even more theoretical complicated and assuming theory do anything more than confuse the practitioner, who is already confused enough what to take in a case and what for the selection of the now necessary remedy, -- not to mention the inaccuracies of the heavily bootlegged  repertories in use today combined with piles of commentaries on MMP now used  to determine the remedy each contradicting another.

Hans Weitbrecht
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Letterbarrow, co. Donegal
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We should consider the list of remedies for the specific viral miasms in the MV as genus epidemicus remedies, which Hahnemann most certainly recommended.

This is parallel to Hahnemann's antipsoric, antisycotic and antisyphilitic remedies. The latter being included by Hahnemann also clearly shows that he did not restrict their usefulness to  true epidemics, since he knew very well that  syphilis was not an epidemic.

This also answers the issue that sometimes non-antipsoric remedies will be the simillimum for a psoric illness. Genus epidemicus remedies  cover most of the cases of a specific "epidemic", not all of them.
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Luise posted:

One such workaround is the consideration that at the bottom of the
pathos there may be vaccination, even in those cases where there was
no NWS-syndrome. looking up the pathogens vaccinated against in the
MV, we may, at least in the cases of vaccination against virus, read
the respective parts of the MV and find some possible similar symptoms
in the present state - symptoms we might otherwise have overlooked.
aAother possibility is that the mother or the patient her/himself may
remeber: oh yes, i had symptoms like that right after vaccination.

The latter would of course not necessarily mean that the symptoms after
vaccination, while they most likely were some ponos, are at the root
of the present pathos. it might, however, be worth an attempt to treat on this
assumption, especially if the case has been dragging on
without cure or has been stuck for a while.............................

Thanks Luise,Interesting post: Never been well after Vaccination,is something we see here in the states alot,These vaccinations will cause a quantum jump in miasmatics (syc miasm) awaken a sleeping monster that may of been dormant for several generations.

Any more on this,you are welcome to post.........................................

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Most of the polychrests being trimiasmatic, the well chosen medicine based on symptoms is very likely to cover the dominant miasm.

There are very very few medicines which denote a 'single' miasm. Perhaps when the smaller medicines too are proved as extensively as the polychrests they may too unravel some symptoms that belong to other miasms.

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Most of the polychrests being trimiasmatic, the well chosen medicine based on symptoms is very likely to cover the dominant miasm.

There are very very few medicines which denote a 'single' miasm. Perhaps when the smaller medicines too are proved as extensively as the polychrests they may too unravel some symptoms that belong to other miasms.

Murthy



This is a misunderstanding.

The reason for this misunderstanding is that the word "miasm" has been used for very many, often quite different, concepts.

Many of the antimiasmatic remedies listed in our various texts of materia medica and reps.  are therefore listed on concepts different from that of Ardavan (and Hahnemann).  So they or some of them may not be applicable when we are using Ardavan's method.

As already said in my summary, Ardavan has selected the remdies for his concept of miasm by studying the acute disease/miasm caused by a certain pathogen and their probable subacute and also chronic manifestations. Then he selected the remedies that are most likely the genus epidemicus for this specific miasm.

Hahnemann did this. He found in mercury the similarity to syphilis, in thuja and nitr. ac. the similarity to sycosis - the figwart disease, not necessarily what we now consider gonorrhea. In sulphur he found similarity to almost all symptoms of what he (probably erroneously) considered to be the infection with just one pathogen - this is why he used it as a starter and also frequent intermediate in almost all chronic diseases. The other antipsorics were to him also genus epidemicus remedies.

H. did indeed know that there were various other pathogens - those causing the epidemics. It seems - although AFAIK he never said so - that he thought that the epidemical diseases could not cause chronic diseases. This would  explain why he did not pay any attention to them in his Chronic Diseases.

We now know differently. We know that e.g. scarlet fever can be at the root of chronic diseases like rheumatism, heart disease, glomerulonephritis, chicken pox at the root of herpes zoster, mumps be the cause of infertility etc.

Thus it makes sense to do research into this aspect and try it out in practice. You all know as well as I do that we have not been able to cure all chronic diseases, that on some we have had to give up, that some linger on and on. It seems not only reasonable but of great importance that we should in those cases at least we should consider new approaches - and Ardavan's Method is one of those.

This is especially true for the part he has so far focused on - the viral miasms.

It seems that so far almost only virologist and some specialists in certain areas (as. e. g. Dr. Suriya Osman as gynocologist) have come to know that infections with many kinds of virus can cause chronic disease, diseases specific to the viral infection.

On the other hand, geneticists have been finding out that viruses can influence the genetic material - which would explain that chronic miasms can be inherited from ancestors having been infected.

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Dear Luise

Thanks for the comment! Well put!

you posted:"geneticists have been finding out that viruses can influence the genetic material - which would explain that chronic miasms can be inherited from ancestors having been infected.................................................... ......."

Correct,as far back as 7 generations!


 

 

 There are verry -specifics- in the "dominance" of a particular Miasmic trait in remedies,

NOt ---------"Most of the polychrests being trimiasmatic remedies have all 3 miasms in them"-------------------------! Murthy please see : MIASMATIC DIAGNOSIS PRACTICAL TIPS WITH COMPARISONS- by S.K.BAnerjea

 

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dear members

there is one aspect about acute miasms which came to mind reading above discussion.
It has shown itself through the years, that remedies which are reflected by the genius epidemicus can vary with every outbreak of the disease, a fact Boenninghausen had to take into consideration when writing about the whooping cough.
this means, that a list of genius epedemicus remedies cannot be sufficiently made up by theoretic study of the related disease-symptoms related to the very virus /bacteria / disease-name, but further more, this list has to be varied for each acute outbreak of such a disease.

Therefore above atempted list selected theoretically on previous disease symptoms only, will remain far to static as of being of any real relevance to day-to-day acute miasmatic  prescribing.
 
These symptoms which lead to remedies previously not used for the miasm often lie in concommittants, those being of a fairly unpredictable nature for future outbreaks. 

To overcome this problem clincal confirmation was thought to be the answer, but all what clinical confirmation can do (in this aspect) is to confirm the simile law, if the remedy was selected according it.-- it cannot predict the suitability of this very remedy if a slightly different outbreak happens next time around.

Louise wrote:
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It seems - although AFAIK he never said so - that he thought that the epidemical diseases could not cause chronic diseases.<<

Interesting view, -- is there anything to support that in Hahnemann's writings?
to my knowledge Hahnemann held the opinion, that Psora was the most common epidemic in humanity, and goes through great lengths in the CD to back this up.


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Murthy -specifics- in the "dominance" of a particular Miasmic trait in remedies,

NOt ---------"Most of the polychrests being trimiasmatic remedies have all 3 miasms in them"-------------------------! Murthy please see : MIASMATIC DIAGNOSIS PRACTICAL TIPS WITH COMPARISONS- by S.K.BAnerjea

 

MIASMATIC PRESCRIBING
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MIASMATIC PRESCRIBING:
          MIASMATIC WEIGHTAGE OF MEDICINES

PART — VI
MIASMATIC PRESCRIBING :
MIASMATIC WEIGHTAGE OF MEDICINES

Medicine Psoric Sycotic Syphilitic Tubercular Chilly
or Hot
           

ABIES CANADENSIS

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ABIES NIGRA

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ABROTANUM

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ABSINTHIUM

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ACALYPHA INDICA

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ACETANILIDUM

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ACETIC ACID

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ACONITUM NAPELLUS

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ACTAEA RACEMOSA

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ACTEA SPICATA

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ADONIS VERNALIS

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ADRENALIN

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AESCULUS HIPPOCASTANUM

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AETHUSA CYNAPIUM

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AGARICUS MUSCARIUS

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AGNUS CASTUS

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AILANTHUS GLANDULOSA

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ALETRIS FARINOSA

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ALFALFA

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ALLIUM CEPA

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ALNUS

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ALOE SOCOTRINA

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ALSTONIA SCHOLARIS

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ALUMINA

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ALUMINA SILICATA

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AMBRA GRISEA

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AMBROSIA

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AMMONIUM BENZOICUM

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AMMONIUM BROMATUM

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AMMONIUM CARBONICUM

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AMMONIUM CAUSTICUM

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AMMONIUM IODATUM

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AMYLENUM NITROSUM

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ANAGALLIS

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ANATHERUM

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ANTHRACINUM

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ANTHRAKOKALI

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ANTIMONIUM ARSENICOSUM

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ANTIMONIUM CRUDUM

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ANTIMONIUM TARTARICUM

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APIS MELLIFICA

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APOCYNUM CANNABINUM

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APOMORPHIA

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ARANEA DIADEMA

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ARBUTUS ANDRACHNE

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ARGENTICUM NITRICUM

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ARNICA MONTANA

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ARSENICUM ALBUM

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ARSENICUM BROMATUM

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ARSENICUM IODATUM

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ARSENICUM METALLICUM

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ARSENICUM SULF. FLAVUM

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ARTEMISIA VULGARIS

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ARUM TRIPHYLLUM

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ARUNDO

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ASAFOETIDA

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ASARUM EUROPUM

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ASCLEPIAS TUBEROSA

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ASIMINA TRILOBA

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ASPARAGUS OFFICINALIS

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ASPIDOSPERMA

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ASTACUS FLUVIATILIS

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ASTERIAS RUBENS

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AURUM METALLICUM

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AURUM MUR. NATRONATUM

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AVENA SATIVA

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AZADIRACHTA INDICA

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BACILLINUM

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BADIAGA

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BALSAMUM PERUVIANUM

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BAPTISIA TINCTORIA

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BARYTA CARBONICUM

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BELLADONNA

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BENZOICUM ACIDUM

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BERBERIS VULGARIS

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BORAX

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BOVISTA

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BROMIUM

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BRYONIA ALBA

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CACTUS GRANDIFLORUS

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CALADIUM

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CALCAREA ARSENICA

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CALCAREA CARBONICA

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CALCAREA IODATA

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CALCAREA PHOSPHORICA

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CALCAREA SULPHURICA

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CALENDULA

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CAMPHORA

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CANNABIS INDICA

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CANNABIS SATIVA

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CANTHARIDES

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CAPSICUM

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CARBO ANIMALIS

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CARBO VEGETABILIS

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CARBOLIC ACID

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CAULOPHYLLUM

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CAUSTICUM

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CHAMOMILLA

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CHELIDONIUM MAJUS

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CICUTA VIROSA

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CINA

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CINCHONA OFFICINALIS

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CINNABARIS

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CISTUS CANADENSIS

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CLEMATIS

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COCA

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COCCULUS

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COCCUS CACTI

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COFFEA

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COLCHICUM

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COLLINSONIA CANADENSIS

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COLOCYNTHIS

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CONIUM MACULATUM

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CROCUS SATIVA

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CROTALUS HORRIDUS

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CROTON TIGLIUM

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CYCLAMEN EUROPAEUM

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DIGITALIS PURPUREA

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DIOSCOREA VILLOSA

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DIPHTHERINUM

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DULCAMARA

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EQUISETUM HYEMALE

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EUPHRASIA

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FERRUM METALLICUM

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FLUORICUM ACIDUM

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GLONOINE

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GRAPHITES

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GUN POWDER

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HAMAMELIS VIRGINICA

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HELLEBORUS

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HEPAR SULPHURIS

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HYDRASTIS

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HYDROPHOBINUM ( LYSSINUM )

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HYOSCYAMUS

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HYPERICUM

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IBERIS

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IGNATIA

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IODUM

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IPECACUANHA

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IRIS VERSICOLOR

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JATROPHA

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JUGULANS CINEREA

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JUSTICIA ADHATODA

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KALI ARSENICUM

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KALI BICHROMICUM

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KALI BROMATUM

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KALI IOD (HYDRIODICUM)

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KALI MURIATICUM

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KALI PHOSPHORICUM

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KALI SILICATUM

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KALI SULPHURICUM

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KALMIA LATIFOLIA

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KOUSSO

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KREOSOTUM

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LAC CANINUM

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LACHESIS

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LACHNANTHES

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LACTICUM ACIDUM

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LACTUCA VIROSA

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LAMIUM

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LAPIS ALBUS

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LAPPA

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LATHYRUS

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LATRODECTUS MACTANS

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LAUROCERASUS

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LECITHIN

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LEDUM PAL

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LEMNA MINOR

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LEPTANDRA

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LILIUM TIGRINUM

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LIMULUS

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LITHIUM CARBONICUM

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LOBELIA INFLATA

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LOLIUM TEMULENTUM

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LUPULUS

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LYCOPODIUM

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LYCOPUS VIRGINICUS

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MAGNESIS CARBONICA

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MAGNESIA MURIATICA

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MAGNOLIA GRANDIFLORA

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MALANDRINUM

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MANCINELLA

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MANGANUM ACETICUM

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MANGIFERA INDICA

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MEDORRHINUM

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MELILOTUS

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MENISPERNUM

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MENYANTHES

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MEPHITIS

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MERCURIUS IODATUS FLAVUS

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MERCURIUS IODATUS RUBER

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MERCURIUS SULPHURICUS

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MEZEREUM

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MILLEFOLIUM

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MOMORDICA BALSAMINA

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MORPHINUM

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MOSCHUS

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MUREX

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MURIATIC ACID

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MYGALE LASIODARA

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MYRICA

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MYRISTICA SEIBIFERA

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NAJA TRIPUDIANS

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NARCISSUS

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NATRUM ARSENICUM

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NATRUM CARBONICUM

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NATRUM MURIATICUM

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NATRUM NITRICUM

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NATRUM PHOSPHORICUM

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NATRUM SALICYLICUM

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NATRUM SULPHURICUM

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NICCOLUM

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NITRIC ACID

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NITRI SPIRITUS DULCIS

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NUX MOSCHATA

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NUX VOMICA

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NYCTANTHES ARBOR-TRISTIS

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OCIMUM CANUM

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OENANTHE CROCATA

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OLEUM ANIMALE

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OLEUM JECORIS ASELLI

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OLEUM SANTALI

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OPERCULINA TURPETHUM

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OREODAPHNE

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OSTRYA VIRGINICA

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OVI GALLINAE PELLICULA

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RHEUM

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SABINA

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SELENIUM

++ +++ + ++ H++

SEMPERVIVUM TECTORUM

++ ++ ++ +++  

SENECIO AUREUS

++ ++ ++ ++ C+

SENEGA

++ ++ + + C++

SENNA

++ ++      

SEPIA

++ +++ L + ++ C+++

SERUM ANGUILLAR (EEL SERUM )

++ +++   +  

SILICEA

++ ++ +++ +++ L C+++

SINAPIS NIGRA

++ ++   +++  

SKOOKUM CHUCK

+++ ++ + +++  

SOLANUM LYCOPERSICUM

++ +++   + C++

SOLANUM NIGRUM

++ ++ +++ +  

SOLIDAGO VIRGA

++ ++ + +++  

SPARTIUM SCOPARIUM

+++ ++ +++ +  

SPIGELIA

++ ++ + +++ C++

SPIRANTHES

++ +++      

SPONGIA TOSTA

++ ++   +++ H+

SQUILL A

++ ++ + ++  

STANNUM

+++ ++ ++ +++ L C++

STAPHYSAGRIA

++ +++ L ++ ++ C++

STELLARIA MEDIA

+++ +++ +++ L + H++

STERCULIA

++ ++ +    

STICTA

++ +++ + ++ C++

STIGMATA MAYDIS

++ +++      

STILLINGIA

++ +++ +++   C+

STRAMONIUM

++ +++ + + C++

STRONTIA

++ +++ + +++ C+++

STROPHANTHUS HISPIDUS

++ +++   +  

STRYCHNINUM

++ ++ ++ +  

STRYCHNIA PHOSPHORICA

++ +++ + +  

SUCCINUM

++ ++   +  

SULFONAL

+++ +++   ++  

SULPHUR

+++ L ++ +++ +++ H+++

SULPHUR IODATUM

++ +++ ++ + H+++

SULPHURICUM ACIDUM

++ ++ +++ +++ C++

SULPHUROSUM ACIDUM

++ ++ +++ ++  

SUMBUL

+++ +++ +   C+

SYMPHORICARPUS RACEMOSA

++ ++   +  

SYMPHYTUM

++ ++ + +  

SYPHILINUM

+++ ++ +++ L ++ C++

SYZYGIUM JAMBOLANUM

+++ + +++ ++  

TABACUM

++ ++ +   H+

TANACETUM VULGARE

+++ ++ ++    

TANNIC ACID

++ +++ + ++  

TARENTULA CUBENSIS

++ + +++L ++  

TARENTULA HISPANIA

++ +++ ++ +++ H++

TARAXACUM

+++ + + +++  

TARTARICUM ACIDUM

+++ ++     H+

TAXUS BACCATA

++ +++ + +++  

TELLURIUM

++ +++ ++ ++ C++

TEREBINTHINA

++ +++ ++ +++ L C+

TEUCRIUM MARUM VARUM

+++ +++ + ++ H+

THALLIUM

++ ++ ++ ++  

THASPIUM AUREUM

++ ++ +++    

THEA

++ + + ++ C++

THERIDION

++ +++ ++ +++ C+

THIOSINAMINUM

++ +++ +    

THLASPI BURSA PASTORIS

++ +++ + +++ L  

THUJA OCCIDENTALIS

++ +++ L ++ ++ C+++

THYMOL

++ +++   +  

THYMUS SERPYLLUM

++ ++ +    

THYROIDINUM

++ +++ L ++ +++ C+++

TILIA EUROPA

++ ++ ++ +++ H++

TITANIUM

++ ++ + +++  

TONGO

++ ++      

TORULA CEREVISIAE

++ +++ +    

TRIBULUS TERRESTRIS

++ +++   +  

TRIFOLIUM PRATENSE

++ ++ +++ + H+

TRILLIUM PENDULUM

++ ++ ++ +++ L  

TRIOSTEUM PERFOLIATUM

++ +++ + +  

TRINITROTOLUENE

+++ + ++ +++

 

TROMBIDIUM

++ ++ +++ +  

TUBERCULINUM

+++ +++ ++ +++ L C+++

TURNERA

++ +++      

TUSSILAGO PETASITES

++ +++      

UPAS TIENTE

++ ++ + +  

URANIUM NITRICUM

++ +++ ++ ++  

UREA

++ ++ + +++  

URTICA URENS

++ +++ L + +++  

USNEA BARBATA

+++ ++   +  

USTILAGO MAYDIS

++ +++ + ++  

UVA URSI

++ +++ + ++  

VACCININUM

++ +++      

VALERIANA

++ ++ + + C+

VANADIUM

++ ++ ++ ++  

VANILLA

++ ++   ++  

VARIOLINUM

++ ++ + ++  

VERATRUM ALBUM

+++ +++   ++ C++

VERATRUM VIRIDE

++ +++ + ++  

VERBASCUM

+++ ++ + +++  

VERBENA

++ + ++ +  

VESPA CRABRO

++ ++ + ++  

VIBURNUM OPULUS

++ +++ + + H++

VINCA MINOR

+++ + + +++  

VIOLA ODORATA

++ ++ + ++ C++

VIOLA TRICOLOR

+++ +++ +   C++

VISCUM ALBUM

++ +++ ++ ++ C+++

WYETHIA

++ ++ + ++  

XANTHOXYLUM

++ ++ + +  

XEROPHYLLUM

++ ++ ++ ++ C+

X-RAY

++ +++ L ++ + C+

YOHIMBINUM

++ ++ + ++  

YUCCA FILAMENTOSA

++ +++   +  

ZINCUM METALLICUM

++ +++ ++ ++  

ZINCUM VALERIANUM

++ ++ ++ ++  

ZINGIBER

++ +++   + C+

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Any one can see that the majority of the medicines given in the above table are tri miasmatic. The weightage only varies. In fact he adds another 4th one tubercular.

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From where this data is collected? How is this table compiled?

It is on the basis of symptoms found in the materia medica. Based on the concepts that a symptom that denotes an over growth/under growth is sycosis, that denotes degeneration is syphilis etc etc.

When we depend on those very symptoms and repertise properly, ninety out of hundred times we will arrive at a medicine which tallies with the weightages given here.

An average patient will show such diversity of symptoms that one symptom belongs to psora, the other to sycosis, and the third to syphilis. Of course there can be a tilt towards a particular miasm. If you repertise properly, the result too will show a medicine which has all these three miasms in the right proportions.

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The chart proves MY point;

Once again

 

 There are verry -specifics- in the _"dominance"_ of a particular Miasmic trait in remedies,

 

 

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If YOUR point is that

The well selected remedy based on the symptom complex is most likely to cover the dominant miasm as given in this table and that one need not break their head to identify the dominating miasm.

you are right.

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there is one aspect about acute miasms which came to mind reading above discussion.
It has shown itself through the years, that remedies which are reflected by the genius epidemicus can vary with every outbreak of the disease, a fact Boenninghausen had to take into consideration when writing about the whooping cough.
this means, that a list of genius epedemicus remedies cannot be sufficiently made up by theoretic study of the related disease-symptoms related to the very virus /bacteria / disease-name, but further more, this list has to be varied for each acute outbreak of such a disease.

As I said in my summary:

It **must be** very imperfect. Every summary must be so.

This would be true also for any answer of mine. I cannot condense all the things Ardavan says in his set of articles to a few sentences.

The goal of the summary is to get homeopaths interested enough to read those texts for themselves and then make up their own minds as to the possible value.

What reason could there be to discourage that?

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Therefore above atempted list selected theoretically on previous disease symptoms only, will remain far to static as of being of any real relevance to day-to-day acute miasmatic  prescribing.
 
These symptoms which lead to remedies previously not used for the miasm often lie in concommittants, those being of a fairly unpredictable nature for future outbreaks. 

To overcome this problem clincal confirmation was thought to be the answer, but all what clinical confirmation can do (in this aspect) is to confirm the simile law, if the remedy was selected according it.-- it cannot predict the suitability of this very remedy if a slightly different outbreak happens next time around.

Louise wrote:
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It seems - although AFAIK he never said so - that he thought that the epidemical diseases could not cause chronic diseases.<<

Interesting view, -- is there anything to support that in Hahnemann's writings?
to my knowledge Hahnemann held the opinion, that Psora was the most common epidemic in humanity, and goes through great lengths in the CD to back this up.


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Louise wrote:
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It seems - although AFAIK he never said so - that he thought that the epidemical diseases could not cause chronic diseases.<<

Hans replied:
Interesting view, -- is there anything to support that in Hahnemann's writings?
to my knowledge Hahnemann held the opinion, that Psora was the most common epidemic in humanity, and goes through great lengths in the CD to back this up.

Why did you quote out of context? Which is:

Luise wrote before:

"H. did indeed know that there were various other pathogens - those causing the epidemics. It seems - although AFAIK he never said so - that he thought that the epidemical diseases could not cause chronic diseases. This would  explain why he did not pay any attention to them in his Chronic Diseases."

It seems obvious that I was not referring to psora there but to those epidemics that had been recognized by Hahnemann  as such before stared working on the chronic diseases. 
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Dear Louise, dear members

I did not quote out of context, when i quoted:
>> It seems - although AFAIK he never said so - that he thought that the epidemical diseases could not cause chronic diseases.<<

This assumption is the starting point of a chain of reasoning.
Still my question remains:
-- is there anything to support that in Hahnemann's writings?
to my knowledge Hahnemann held the opinion, that Psora was the most common epidemic in humanity, and goes through great lengths in the CD to back this up.
Because if there is nothing to support this view, then the complete chapter becomes senseless.

Thanks Murthy for your list.
It confirms wht already hahnemann realized. As the list lists almost each and every remedy as an antipsoric, it becomes meaningless from the  point of decisiveness.
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Dear members

first of all it should be noted, that the term MIASMA describes every disease which can be transmitted from Human to human, or animal to human, or human to animals.

The transmission can be by means of any means, to know the coincidental increase of a certain bacteria or virus is irrelevant.

Dear Hans,

Can you tell us which Maism can be transmitted from Human to Human or from Human to Animal without the role of microorganims?

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