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shasha
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Topic: hemorrhoids Posted: 26 Oct. 06 at 08:28 |
what is the best cure for external hemorrhoids that sometimes bleed if enlarged enough. Aggravated by running walking or standing for long periods of time. Also what is the recommended dosage?
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Posted: 26 Oct. 06 at 09:29 |
Your case is incomplete but anyway, many remedies are coming in my mind. Aes, aloe, alum, apis, arnica and Thuja
But if I take three symptoms (hemorrhoid, hemorrhoid external, hemorrhoid bleeding walking) as you told us then, in similar conditions like above, I suggest, a stat dose of Thuja 1M and on the other day start alum 30 three times a day. If bleeding is profuse then take mother tincture of hamamelis Q, 5 drops four to five times in a day. Sepia is also closer. In Hamamelis, Anus feels sore and raw. Hemorrhoids, bleeding profusely with soreness. Pulsation in rectum. Large quantities of tar-like blood in stools. Bloody dysentery. Stools: costive, hard, coated with mucus. Large quantities of a tar-like blood

Repertory Analysis - Alum is first, Sepia is second.
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Posted: 26 Oct. 06 at 09:33 |
Hi shasha,
Piles (Hemorrhoids) usually respond well to Hamamelis or Paeonia in ointment form. The ointments are equally soothing for internal as well as external piles.
When they keep recurring, it`s worth considering the use of remedies by mouth.
Piles that aggravate by standing and walking and are protruding usually indicate the remedy Aesculus hippocastanum.
Take this remedy in 6c or 30c potency, one dose twice daily till improved. One dose is 2 tablets (or 3-4 pellets/pillules/pills/granules) to be taken in a clean mouth half an hour away from food and drink, except water.
Hot sitzbaths with epsom salts or witch hazel are also helpful and bioflavonoids are important to strenghten the blood vessel walls.
Wim
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Posted: 26 Oct. 06 at 09:48 |
Hello Diplomat,
I don`t know if you are a qualified homeopath, but Thuja has aggravation also by sitting down ! Also the potency you mention is far too high for treating this disorder properly. Thuja hasn`t got the aggravation by standing either ! Also have another look at the modalities of Alum. If you`re not a qualified prescriber please refrain from prescribing here !
Wim
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Also, i think bleeding from the rectum is not the issue here as this could relate to many other diseases.
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Posted: 26 Oct. 06 at 10:23 |
There are different techniques to treat the patient with homeopathic way. These are called prescribing methods. Each homeopath adopt a different technique. Secondly the same patient can be cured by more then one remedy (ies). What does this mean? You may cure the patient with aesc and I may with alum or sepia. (many examples can be quoted here)
You can't say, this patient can only be cured with aesc hip only. Thuja is the best remedy for hemorrhoid in my experience. There is no substitute for experience. The main problem of this patient is hemorrhoid and on that single symptom you can suggest Thuja. No other symptoms are required.
In my experience, I have cured many cases of hemorrhoid with this single remedy. Thuja is my best remedy in such cases.
You see this patient was recovered with Cham. Cham is not well indicated remedy. It was far away from the top remedy but anyway it done the job. 
http://www.nch.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=1043
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Posted: 26 Oct. 06 at 10:40 |
Please check your MM`s (esp. Murphy`s Rep.) again and prescribe accordingly. These modalities are very important ! Also this ridiculous high potency is not correct for this case ! Thuja and Alum. are far less indicated ! Moreover these remedies are not even found among the main remedies for this problem.
I assume you`re not a qualified classical homeopath otherwise you would use good mm`s + repertories properly !
Also please remove photograph of combo`s in the other thread.
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Posted: 26 Oct. 06 at 10:51 |
The above case analysis is from murphy repertory . Does classical homeopath use murphy repertory? This repertory is compiled on disease base.
Classical homeopath also for few cases when symptoms are not clear or patient is suffering with two many disease manifestions then suggest one remedy stat and other indicated remedy on the other day or alternate basis. 
In my experience, Thuja in 1m (one dose) as I suggested above will not harm the patient. I am ready to handle that situation.
Which pictures you are talking about?
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Posted: 26 Oct. 06 at 11:00 |
I mean Murphy`s Homoeopathic Medical Repertory (in book form) also used by classical homeopaths.
I mean the picture with the combo`s.
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Posted: 28 Oct. 06 at 03:23 |
You can try ****** Every 2 hours. With that ******** every 4 Hrs..
If your stool is smelling and brown also take ********* at night once a day.
(multiple prescriptions are not allowed on Hpathy.Also you must give justification for your remedy..Murthy)
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Posted: 05 Nov. 06 at 07:41 |
Dear Murthy,
Suggesting remedy in general discussion forum and in case discussion forum is little bit different. Here non-homeopaths are also allowed to prescribe the remedy, yes indeed according to the principle of homeopathic rules. To me, suggesting a remedy in alternate form is also a type of compound therapy.
What will you call it this type of suggestion:-
Sulphur in the morning and nux in the evening.
classical homeopath also suggest that prescription. This is also a compound therapy.
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Posted: 05 Nov. 06 at 08:21 |
Diplomat.....Murthy meant it was a so called `this for that` suggestion, because hardly any symptoms and modalities etc. were mentioned !
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Posted: 05 Nov. 06 at 10:14 |
Sulphur in the morning and Nux in the evening sort of prescriptions are suggested some times, as they are complimentary.
However, personally I don't suscribe to even such alternations. I prefer to use Nux,say three doses, and switch over to Sulphur later,if Nux.fails to relieve completely, and the complimentary, more deeper action of sulphur is desired.
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Posted: 06 Nov. 06 at 18:32 |
gavini
Rules are rules. There is no mid way when you implent the rule. Implement with full force or leave it entirely. What does "sometime" means? On each patient this "sometime" applies? Whether you hold the ear from this side or from rare side is almost same.
Let me give you another example of practical application. Ramakrishan protocol is not mentioned in homeopathy. It is also against the true classical rules / organon but rama used a new technique after deviating from homeopathic rules and discovered a very good method and adopted in actual practice now you and me are trying to cover him by finding those homeo rules that supports that method although it is not.
My question is that would you allow Rama or his followers to prescribe medicine according to that rule at hpathy forum? If yes then you are not following true classical approach because without waiting for the response of your first remedy you are forcing the effect of a medicien by repeating illogically that is not classical approach. If you do not allow at forum then actually you are not a believer on practical experience and you do not want to face reality and reality is that rama protocol also works.
Conclusion is that don't force your method of prescription on members in general homeopathic discussion forum. Let them allow to suggest remedies according to the normal homeopathic ways where 28 methods are suggested by eminent scholars and each one also has quoated cases. Yaa, I agree don't reteliate on BLUNDERS.
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Posted: 06 Nov. 06 at 19:45 |
Dear Diplomat
The problem with these 'public homeopathic forums ' is that everyone looks at these posts,The layperson that knows nothing about homeopathic principles and happens to think homeopathy is easy to prescribe for any and all ailments posted here. They ask" i have a big boil i need a remedy NOW!".............and that's it. Homeopaths come on line "try this try that remedy and use potency 3,6,9,12,1m,10m,50m LM...............etc". No one learns,no one benefits surely not the laymen that has posted. The REASON for the remedy suggestion via MM/documentation needs to be clarified here via type. Yes if its only trained homeopaths communicating the trial and error confusion of 'what is homeopathy,how does it work' has been eliminated because we as homeopaths study this for years. We all should know how these remedies interact/antidote.
This forum has many rules,i agree,but it truly is for the best wellbeing of all that want to learn as this is a "Discussion forum''...........not a forum for FREE Prescriptions.
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Posted: 07 Nov. 06 at 01:32 |
Dear Gina,
I see that you repeat in many posts that "this is not a FREE ADVICE forum " or "this is not a FREE PRESCRIPTION forum". I am sure you are a very good and experienced homeopath and certainly is a very good idea to personally see a trained homeopath who can deeply analyse the case and take care of an individual. But this should not switch off your willing of helping the ones in need when they wait for somebody to lend a hand to them. A deep analysis is not always a guarantee that a cure will follow or that the proper remedy will be given. Me and my wife personally visited many homeopaths, most of them recommended ones, and after deep analysis (about 2 hours) the result was no good and more of this they prescribed to me remedies that I proved for a long time. Good homeopaths are very very hard to find. There are many posts on this forum that confirm this. Many homeopaths I met "play" with homeopathy and they are not willing to take a case that should be observed on long term. They see their occupation just as a bussines. I know that in California everything is evaluated in money! Not all the rest of the world are led entirely by this rule!
But, thanks God this forum exist and that they are such a helping persons like Snoopy, William, Murthy, Rajiv and so on, who are dynamic and practical. I personally think that this forum is more than a discussion forum because it deals with real persons and real cases, which personally assume the suggestions that experienced homeopaths make to them.
If you would only academically discussions then it is the closed forum, where only certain homeopaths have access!
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Posted: 07 Nov. 06 at 08:55 |
Dear Cosbiss
I stand by my comments. I take homeopathy Verry seriously ,Yes homeopathy is a means to help the sick and ailing ones,but ONLY if done the proper way. THe remedies ALWAYS work. IT is the homeopath that faulters. As you said yourself in your post many visits to many homeopaths and still no healing just goes to show you how difficult homeopathy is to prescribe. When a patient looks for help from an allopath (conventional MD) They also make many many many visits to various 'specialist',do they not? Have you ever known of a person that has a chronic disease to visit their General Practicioner and left the office totally cured? I dont think so. Same goes for homeopathy. But to look for a shortcut here on a discussion forum is NOT the answer. It is a forum for suggestions,idea's and discussions,a learning forum. We can allways learn from each other.
And for your information I do FREE homeopathic work in rural villages(in Indonesia) with people so poor their cow lives in a better shack,i'm talking no water,electricity,paved roads.here patients give me gifts/fruit...............People in california are another story all together. The cost of living here is ridiculous,you cannot even imagine. If i gave everyone free homeopathics in calif. i would be out on the streets as a homeless person myself. Homeopaths have sympathy but also need to take care of their family.Do the hundred thousand allopaths around here give free advice,free prescriptions? Is it a job or a passion for most homeopaths? It is a passion to help the sick for most homeopaths i personally know. To take advantage of this by insisting on free prescriptions without a proper case,without compensation is disrespectfull. The RULES at the beginning of this website are verry clear to anyone,not everyone reads them.
GT
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Posted: 07 Nov. 06 at 10:19 |
For you cosbiss;
HPATHY FORUM RULES- READ FIRST
Guidelines for casediscussion forums
1- "you may ask for guidance or discuss your case,but not with the attention of getting treatment".......................
5- "Hpathy does not encourage treatment and follow up through these open forums,please consult your homeopath".......................................
Its verry clear,these are not my rules,they have been posted for everyone to follow.
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Posted: 07 Nov. 06 at 11:24 |
Dear Gina,
I am not against rules! You surely understand that the rules you are highlighting here exists mainly for legal circumstances. That means nobody should sue hpathy.com for any suggestions or remedies he or she might take. Did you mention that any site or any store that sell supplements, vitamins, minerals or natural herbal teas have a paragraph at the end of the site that states:
"The claims about products on this website have not been evaluated by NutraSanus.com or the United States Food and Drug Administration and are not approved to treat, cure or prevent disease. The information provided on this site is for informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for advice from your physician or other health care professional or any information contained on or in any product label or packaging. You should not use the information on this site for diagnosis or treatment of any health problem or for prescription of any medication or other treatment. Consult with a healthcare professional before starting any diet, exercise or supplementation program, before taking any medication, or if you have or suspect you might have a health problem.
After the above statement you might understand that this site should not be open to anyone but experienced health profesional! So it has sense only on legal purposes, and I agree with this. From this point of view, I agree with hpathy.com rules and I personally assume the treatment that experienced homeopaths recommend. Also I agree that there must be restrictions about persons who can make recommendations because not everyone can suggest a remedy for a case. But we also should remain open minded!
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