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    Posted: 04 May 06 at 21:11

Hello,

Mag. Phos. is a remedy indicated for many disoreder esp. related with cramps, convulsions, spasms etc. mostly related to some impairments in muscle's contractions.

Just have a look at these indicated insulin's action:-

"Increased potassium uptake –[Insulin] forces cells to absorb serum potassium; lack of insulin inhibits absorption.

Arterial muscle tone – [Insulin]forces arterial wall muscle to relax, increasing blood flow, especially in micro arteries; lack of insulin reduces flow by allowing these muscles to contract.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin "

It looks that there are some relations of contracted and relaxed conditions with blood glucose levels. More and more insulin is being exposed to body and added in diabetic esp. type2 with insulin resistance cases. So above 2nd indication can be very important to look at deeply any dynamically.

So pls tell, your experiances of Mag.Phos. or other similar homeopathic remedies with persisting hyperglycemia (high blood glucose levels). It may also be related to hypertension.

Green Herbs do contain lot of magnesium. Moving into green area from cities may help in improving persisting hyperglycemia, hypertension etc.

Other remedies effecting contractions and relaxations are also needed to be looked into deeply.

Best wishes.


 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 06 at 10:42

dear kayvee

here is a link to a website regards magnesium deficiency

http://www.ctds.info/magnesium-migraine.html

some causes explained; migraines,mitral valve prolapse,epileptic seizures,fibromyalgia,menstrual cramps,anxiety,heart  disease,insomnia , many many more problems related to "not enough mag."another link on magnesium and diabetes   www.magnesiumforlife.com  click on diabetes link

gina tyler



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 06 at 21:43

Hello Gina,

Thanks for good links.

Mag. is related to one side of muscle motion/tone...relaxation. There are also other indicated actions.

I want to know, experiances of homeopaths with Mag phos or similar for treating diabetes2 type cases as it may just make anyone somewhat opposite.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 06 at 02:06

To add from "Text book of Medical physiology by Guyton & Hall :-


 "Long term regulation of blood flow is esp. important when metabolic
demands of tissue change. Thus, if a tisue become chronically
overactive and therefore require chronicaly increased quantity of
oxygen and other nutrients, the blood vessels usually increase within
few weeks almost to match needs of the the tissues--unless the
circulatory system has become pathological too old to repond.

The mechanism of long term local blood flow regulation is principally
to change the degree of vascularity of the tissues. For instance; if
metabolism in a given tissue is increased for a prolonged time
vascularity increases; if the metabolism is decreased, vascularity
decreases. Thus there is reconstruction of the tissue vasculature to
meet the needs of the tissues. The reconstruction occurs rapidly(within
days) in exteremely young animals. It also occurs rapidly in new groth
tissue, such as scar tissue and cancerous tissue; however it occurs
much more slowly in old, well established tissues.


Oxygen is important not only for acute but also long term control of
local blood flow. One example of this in to increase in vascularity in
the tissues of animals that live on high altitudes, where the
atmospheric oxygen is low. A second example is that fetel chicks
hatched in low oxygen have upto twice as muchblood vessel conductivity
as is normally true. This same effect is also dramatically demonstrated
in premature human babies who are put on oxygen tents for therapeutic
purposes. The excess O2 causes almost immediate cesstion of new
vascular growth in the retina of the premature baby's eyes and even
causes degenaration of some of the capillaries that already have
formed. Then when the infant is taken out of the o2 tent, there is
explosive overgroth of new vessels to make up for the sudden decrease
in available oxygen; indeed, there is often so much overgroth that
vessels grow into the eye's vitreous humor and eventuall cause
blindness. (This condition is called "retrolental fibroplasia"). " 

It may be very important in understanding addictions, physical dependances,
tolerances, habits, cravings variations in blood flows blood flow
controls to tissues, need and supply balance to tissues, variations in
demand for regulatory harmones, vasodilators, vasoconstrictors etc.,
toxicities and effect of toxicities to tissues etc.

Furthur;

"Local blood flow control can be divided into two phases;

1) Acute - rapid change constriction/dilatation of arteriols, metarteriol et spincters.

2) Long-term control provides a better control by increasing/decreasing
the physical size and number of blood vessels supplying the tissues. "

Diabetic2 patients can have persistent hyperglycemia due to excess craving and overeating. They can also opt for sed. lifestyle due to some diabetic pathology, predispositions or opting for modern lifestyles. Consequently, supply of glucose and nutrients can be more to tissues and demand/need to them may be less. As such excess glucose, nutrients etc. may cause some toxicity to target tissues. To save from this and in view of above;

Can chronically elevated blood glucose levels and/or of other nutrients in blood cause some morphological changes by decreasing the physical size and number of blood vessels supplying the tissues as "long term blood flow regulation", naturally?

How added insulin--medicated or injected, can behave in opposite to above natural body's mechanism of restricting excess exposure of nutrients to cells, in view of dilating effect mediated by added insulin? Can such added insulin with its prolonged exposures cause gluco/nutrient toxicity or excess exposure to target cells or prolonged relaxed conditions of blood vessels?

In view of above, it may be helpful to understand remedies, Ferrum phos. Calc. Fluor and remedies indicated for relaxed conditions AND Mag Phos. and other remedies indicated for contracted conditions.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 June 06 at 21:22

Breathing pattern, hot and cold, humid or dry, movements and lazyness, stress and excercises, different colours, tastes, different foods, seasons, acid, base and water balances, pH, constitutional mentionings, most diseases, most individual remedies, individuals...may be everything can be basically related to contracted or relaxed conditions and some impairement or abnormalities in these as these may effect normal blood flow to tissues.

It is also from the Text book of physiology by Guyton & Hall apart from other
vasoconstrictior and dilator agents:-

 "Effects of ions and other chemical factos on vascular control:-

Many different ions and other chemical factors can either dilate of
contrict local blood vessels:-

*An increase in calcium ion concentration causes vasoconstriction. This
results from the general effect of calcium to stimulate smooth muscle
contraction.

*An increase in K+ ion concentration causes vasodilation. This results
from ability of K ions to inhibit smooth muscle contraction.

*An increase in magnesium ion concentration causes powerful vasodilation
because magnesium ions inhibit smooth muscle generally.

*The only anions to have significant effects on blood vessels are
acetate and citrate, both of hich causes mild degrees of vasodilation.

*An increase in hydrogen ion concentration (decrease in pH, [lactic acidosis etc.]) causes dilation of the arterioles. A slight decrease im hydrogen ion
concentration causes arteriolar constriction, but an intense decrease
causes dilation.

*An increase in carbon dioxide concentration causes moderate
vasodilation in most tissues but marked vasodilation in the brain.
Also, carbon dioxide, acting on the brain vasomotor cener, has an
extremely powerful indirect effect, transmitted through the sympathetic
nervous vasoconstrictor system, to cause widespread vasoconstriction
throughout the body.

Furthur, O2 levels can also effect vasculature, vasoconstriction and vasodilation....so the blood flw to tissues. 


 Natural vasodilators and Drugs that Exploit Them

*Absence of high levels of environmental noise

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*Niacin (aka nicotinic acid)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasodilation  

 

The above are also considered as vasodilators.


Whether above vasodilators, chemical factors and changes in breathing pattern can cause changes in blood circulation, if yes, how it can impact on blood glucose levels?



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Kayvee wrote:

 <Arterial muscle tone ?[Insulin]forces arterial wall muscle to relax, increasing blood flow, especially in micro arteries; lack of insulin reduces flow by allowing these muscles to contract.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin "

It looks that there are some relations of contracted and relaxed conditions with blood glucose levels. >

Perhaps this may complementary to your research on vasodialation.

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Nitric_oxide

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 June 06 at 02:29

drlew,

Thanks for the link. Nitric Oxide is also one natural vasodilator as also indicated on link provided by me...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasodilation  

I sometimes feel, why Dr Sch. not provided any nitrogen based salt in his biochemic system inspite of fact that it is one of the important constituent of body.

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   Greetings to all members

Kayvee commented:

 < Whether above vasodilators, chemical factors and changes in breathing pattern can cause changes in blood circulation, if yes, how it can impact on blood glucose levels? >

 HOW CELLS USE BIOPHYSICAL  FLOWS FOR CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL CUES.


 Slow biophysical flows, such as those that exist between the lymphatic and blood capillaries to help transport macromolecules from blood to tissues, play an important role in the formation of morphohenic gradients which are critical to organogenesis.

ˇ§This exquisite system may have evolved as a way for cells to gain better control of their local extracellular surroundings, where they can use the fluid forces that exist in tissues to direct and amplify communication and organization,ˇ¨ said Swartz.

Helm used an in vitro model of capillary formation to demonstrate proof-of-concept that small biophysical flows play a critical role in tissue formation. She placed human blood and lymphatic endothelial cells in an environment containing matrix-bound vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) and subjected the system to a very slow externally induced flow.

Without the flow, very little cell organization took place. With the combination of flow and VEGF, the endothelial cells networked and organized, quickly forming capillaries. ˇ§Cara gave the cells the right biochemical environment and a physical impetus, and the two conditions combined synergistically, driving the cells to organize into functional structures,ˇ¨ said Swartz.

This research shows clearly that small biophysical forces are among the critical environmental cues that tell cells where to migrate and how to organize into functional tissues. In addition to tissue engineering applications, this discovery could be used to improve our understanding of basic cellular signaling and organizational processes.

                                 http://www.northwestern.edu/observer/issues/2006/03/09/cells .html

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 June 06 at 08:49

drlew,

Good article.

"Morphogens are secreting signaling molecules that play a key role in the formation of the shape and size of organs."

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=15040

It can be important to understand if cells can mediate fluid and nutrients flow from intravascular compartment to them in case of such nutrients are in excess or deficient. Tissue's oncotic pressure, intravascular hydrostatic and oncotic pressures and capillary permeabilty, local blood flow controls etc. can effect nutrient and fluid exchange.

Angiogenesis can be possible for increasing blood flow in any part.

Exercise

Angiogenesis is generally associated with aerobic exercise and endurance exercise. While arteriogenesis produces network changes that allow for a large increase in the amount of total flow in a network, angiogenesis causes changes that allow for greater nutrient delivery over a long period of time. Capillaries are designed to provide maximum nutrient delivery efficiency so an increase in the number of capillaries allows the network to delivery more nutrients in the same amount of time. A greater number of capillaries also allows for greater oxygen exchange in the network.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiogenesis 



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