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scarface
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Topic: Self made homeopathic remedies Posted: 04 Nov. 09 at 08:25 |
Hallo everybody, some months ago I have read an interview with Vithoulkas, where he talks about smth interessting: "I listened once to a German lady homeopath who was claiming to be extremely successful with a lot of patient’s. When I asked her from which pharmaceutical company she was purchasing her remedies, she told me that she produced the remedies herself. She would write in a piece of paper the remedy and the potency and through a machine will produce it instantly. Tell if this is not a hundred percent placebo effect.
The lady was so successful financially that she donated a big amount to the Foundation of "George Vithoulkas Stifftung” in Germany." Source: http://www.hpathy.com/interviews/georgevithoulkas.asp I have read some weeks before that interview about a doctor who was on holiday with her dauther and did not have any possibility to get the right remedy, so she wrote the name of the remedy on a piece of paper, place it on the glass for some time and gave to the dauther with immediate effect. Another remedy given as granules failed before. So far to this ideas which brought me to think about this. Remembering of Masaru Emoto and his provings that words written on glasses change the structure of the water crystals I realized THIS MUST WORK ! A word vibrates, and a word with the name of the remedies vibrates too and programms this vibration into the water. A thought is also vibration. It is also known from a real agricultural experiment that photos of some bugs make another bugs leave the fields. Knowing all this I decided to test it myself, fully convinced it works, because I know the principles. And guess what ! It works ! I gave the paper & water remedy to all kind of people in the last months, believers and not believers, to people making the remedy themself or drinking the whater without knowing they take a remedy. So the placebo effect can be fully ignored, is not the case. Vithoulkas is too old and serious to take such a thing in consideration and try it, and probably many other people would do the same. Besides this, this is not really good to be known by not-homeopaths, since if the homeopathy itself is dufficult to believe for the material way of thinking, what smdy like that would think about some words written on a piece of paper ????
So here are my experiences with the paper remedy in the chronologic order. I tell people to do that : Fill a glass of thin transpaernt glass half with water, cut a piece of white paper, write the name and the potency of the remedy on the paper and either place it into the whater face down or stick it on the glass writing facing inwards. Paper shoul be sticked at the same lavel with the water. Then place the glass for 60-90 minutes in a dark queit places and succus 4-6 times before dinking. Euphrasia 200 in an conjuctivitis case. It worked very good. Myself I tested a nosede I could not buy (Clostrides) and noticed the water have a very weird taste. (the Lachesis woman told be the same think afterwards. Did not notice any change from the remedy and only took it once. Lachesis 10M to a 35 old woman, in an acute case. It worked right ways. She was on Lachesis before, so I knew was the right remedy. The woman reported a strange taste of the water and that the glass was very "heavy".
Staphysagria 200. Did not work. But Staphysagria 200 after that in granules did not work either. So here it was just the wrong remedy.
A friend took a remedy I forgot now which one in the same manner and reported of a weird taste of the remedy. Argentum nitricum 200 in a panic attack. It worked right away. Magnesium phosphoricum 1M in very strong lombar pain caused by borrilia (that time nobody knew that.) It worked for 6-8 hours very good, although the pain was constant before the remedy. Another paper remedy after and before this one failed ! (Wrong remedies) Stramonium 10M to a woman in violent delirium. Did not know that she took a remedy. It worked and first aggravated the simptoms obviously. Argentum nitricum 1M for a stomach affection. It worked, pacient was 2 days tired after the remedy, after that she was curing slowly. Aconitum 200, panic attacks. It worked right away. There are some more cases, but I stop here, I guess it's enough. So this is my own experience with this. Believe it or not it worked for me, it works for a rich german homeopth, who even donate money for Vithoulkas Stiftung, it worked for another doctor in an emergency. This is my eyes beyond placebo and the paper remedies did not have any effect with the wrong remedy names. We have also the scientific proof from Masaru Emoto and others that words written on whatever inform the water with the vibration or so to say the meaning or the "content" of the word.
It is not a method to replace the remedies, but it is good method to help somebody in cases where is not possible to get any remedy in in real time. Or or to use some remedies that nobody produces (like Clostrides)! It would be interesting if some other open minded people here or elsewhere would test this principle too and report the results.
Regards, Scarface
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Posted: 04 Nov. 09 at 16:14 |
I agree that Emoto's work presents some very confronting ideas for us as homoeopaths. His work on one hand, helps to justify our use of dilute medicines and reliance on water as the healing medium. On the other hand, it might seem to justify some of the more controversial methods floating around in homoeopathy.
This challenged me too when I read that book. But I think the important thing to remember is that Emoto does not say every word we speak changes water, but only those words that have specific vibrations or energy. The real question is...does the name of the remedy, our scientific, or even the shortened name of it, have the same universal vibration as a word like 'Love' or 'Forgiveness'. One could say that perhaps it is the intention that is carried with the word, but I am not convinced that a word like Staphysagria has universal meaning or energy.
Just my thoughts on the matter. 
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Posted: 04 Nov. 09 at 18:57 |
It's all very interesting, Scarface; now, I have to ask you a very important question:
What have you done with the remedy glasses?
Are you disposing of them after each experiment? If not, if you're using the Lachesis glass and the Staphysagria glass, etc. over again to do Aconite or Arnica next time, then the experiment is compromised.
I would also ask if anybody knows if clear plastic cups would work because no one would do this if they had to keep throwing away their glassware.
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Posted: 04 Nov. 09 at 23:15 |
The power behind the water experiment is 'Intent'. If you believe, you can move mountains it is said. Words like Love, Forgiveness are universal words with powerful intent.
i was just wondering why write names of remedies, just write "cure this person of ......by choosing remedy suitable to him"
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Posted: 04 Nov. 09 at 23:34 |
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Exactly! That in fact would make perfect sense.
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Posted: 05 Nov. 09 at 02:29 |
Brisabane: "I think" and "I believe" will be forever a presumtion untill you try. If you want to know, just try it.
Onyx: Don't forget that 3 remedies did not work at all, although the same intent was present !
Try to heal somebody with the sentence ""cure this person of .." if you can and you will see that it doesnt have the effect of sa remedy and I you think a little bit you will find the reason: the remedy exists and have a real frequency, the name of it has the same frequency - it's just a copy of it, like a picture, and you know what this frequeny does to the body.
The sentence you build have an unknown frequency and you dont know if it heals, dont know if can heal dont know its effect. At least only untill you try. If you use the worng plant or remedy in healing doesnt work weither and you have the same healing intent.
But in this case you dont need even hoemopathy or even a paper, you can just pray for tha patient and it is safer and stronger. Snoopy: I gave the remedies like that because there was no chance of getting any real ones. There were high potency remedies, unique dose, so most of the people took them only once.
I told people to wash the glasses well with hot water after using the glass. I guess is not important if you use glass of plastic specially if you place the paper into the water. The interesting thing also is the weird taste present in the water. Four people reported of this weird taste, myself I tasted it. I could not ask all the people if they felt a particular taste though, only one case where the paticent told me it didn't feel anything particular. But out senses and attention cand be very different.
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Posted: 05 Nov. 09 at 05:48 |
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Is it right that water will be ineffective if time given is less than 60 minutes? How about the shelf life? Can alcohol be used in place of water? sajjad.
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In any complicated chronic case,the recent symptoms are the deciding ones.Cure your case in layers,the last layer first.(Woodbury)what,where,when,why, with are important.
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Posted: 05 Nov. 09 at 05:55 |
Originally posted by scarface
Then place the glass for 60-90 minutes in a dark queit places and succus 4-6 times before dinking
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If dark room and quite place is not availble then what?
sajjad.
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In any complicated chronic case,the recent symptoms are the deciding ones.Cure your case in layers,the last layer first.(Woodbury)what,where,when,why, with are important.
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Posted: 05 Nov. 09 at 08:19 |
@sajjadakram. About the time: I have no idea what the time has to be. Nobody can tell. It is just empiric what I used. One time the remedy was done only for 20-30 minutes, the water had a bad taste and the remedy worked. One time the glass was outside at light and worked too. The time and the darkness is only my idea, only smth that I thought would be better. I guess one should avoid any other influence during programming and give enough time for the water to be programmed, that it all I think.
Other times and methods would probaly work too. One has to try. I have no clue what would be the best, but so far this worked with me. One can make experiments with plants, using real homeopatic remedies and paper remedies to find out differences or use some spectral or other methods (radionic) to see the difference between the real and the written remedy. I found out this thing is just the same method use for black magic...and I know black magic works...so this can be used with homeopathy too, for a good purpose.
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Thanks.But,how do we know that the remedy is ready for use? Is the changed taste confirmation? With the help of radionic potentizer we can make remedies right from 1x,is it possible to achieve the same with this method? can we expect the change of taste of 1x? sajjad.
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In any complicated chronic case,the recent symptoms are the deciding ones.Cure your case in layers,the last layer first.(Woodbury)what,where,when,why, with are important.
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Posted: 05 Nov. 09 at 08:48 |
Hit and trial method can shake the confidence.Do you agree?
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In any complicated chronic case,the recent symptoms are the deciding ones.Cure your case in layers,the last layer first.(Woodbury)what,where,when,why, with are important.
B.Sc;D.H.M.S,(Pak.)
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Posted: 05 Nov. 09 at 10:38 |
Sjjadakram: you think too complicated ! Just place the paper for 1 hour and it will work this way. Since I cannot try remedies I dont need I cannot find out wether the taste will be changed for every remedy and every time or not. Changed taste is just an unfutable argument for non-believers: there is smth. on going there from a word written on a piece of paper, believe it or not.
If you want to make a scientific method out of this simple thing go on. I dont intend this. I've only shared my own experience. Just try it the same way I did and report your observations or change it the way you think is the best and report. Did anybody say this is an scientific method ? It is an empiric method and the most important thing it is that it's working. Whatever theory would shake someone's confidence, I dont give a penny on a theory. I prefer reality. Regards, scarface
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Posted: 05 Nov. 09 at 21:30 |
I do know, that when I wrapped the water I use to make up the patient's remedy, in paper with the words Love, Compassion, Forgiveness on it, the water became very cold. It was interesting.
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Posted: 05 Nov. 09 at 22:57 |
Could someone lead me to a link or pass on information on Full proving of 'Valeriana Off'.
Few days ago my friend, a homeopathy suggested this remedy for me.
Now, since this is my name sake (my name is Valerian) am interested to understand the name frequency factor 
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Posted: 06 Nov. 09 at 00:21 |
Scarface,
It is scientific or unscientific ,we are not interested.We want to learn from your experience. Please keep on posting. sajjad.
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In any complicated chronic case,the recent symptoms are the deciding ones.Cure your case in layers,the last layer first.(Woodbury)what,where,when,why, with are important.
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Posted: 06 Nov. 09 at 00:28 |
dear sajjadakram, so please contribute to this experience and do your own experiments. It is a big deal o be able to help somebody who cannot get any real remedy in a difficult situation.
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Posted: 06 Nov. 09 at 00:41 |
Thanks.i will do that.
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In any complicated chronic case,the recent symptoms are the deciding ones.Cure your case in layers,the last layer first.(Woodbury)what,where,when,why, with are important.
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Posted: 06 Nov. 09 at 02:15 |
I don't mean to rain on the parade here but this sounds wrong to me. Words don't 'vibrate' in any sense whatsoever. How would the water know you wrote "Lycopodium 10M" versus anything else. It's just some graphite or ink rubbed off onto paper. How are you not making a potency of graphite and cellulose? Traditionally prepared homeo. remedies are measurably different from water with raman scattering and other spectroscopy measurements. If this holds up to measurement I'll beleive it.
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Posted: 06 Nov. 09 at 03:23 |
I was astounded yesterday to be told about an Italian Physician/doctor who without knowing or asking anything about the patient simply asks them to write their name on a piece of paper
from this with what i guess is a dowsing rod and some kind reference book he told the patient her entire medical history
She was dumbfounded
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Posted: 06 Nov. 09 at 03:55 |
Cire: whatever you might know, you dont know EVERYTHING about everything, and not even why and how exactely HOW the real remedies works. So you use yourself so far just empiric methods and have no clue about what happens in the body when you give a remedy.
Dont stay at the level of cutting this theory in slices when you have the chance of prooving this in practice with very simple means. Try it and then see yourself but dont forget that the paticent has to get the right remedy, otherwise it wont work. Ifonly: I know an amazing dowser here who do the same. Only from the name of the person or a picture of them, they can tell all sickness and even microbs the person has in its body. He check all the sickness and microbs and whatever stay in resonance with the person will be sensed with the dowsing rod. The same applies to finding the right homeopatic remedy for somebody. If one has this capacity many things become easy, but this people can be also influenced in a way or another, by good or bad spirits that help them doing this.
Ahh, I have an idea ! Here is a real scientific comparison method we can do to see the difference between a real remedy and a written remedy: to use a bioresonance measuring device.
I know smdy who has one and I scanned myself once and we tested some homeopatic remedies to see what they would do to my body. You see the affected organs in your body and if the homeopatic remedy has any influence on them.
By scanning a person and comparing the same remedy in the same potency in the two different forms (written word in water and homeopatic granule) we could this way VISUALIZE the difference, if any, and see if the remedy has the same spectrum.
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