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Hello,

I have a question. I had my gallbladder removed in Jan 09. Since 3 days after surgery, I've had lots of burning in my intestines and stomach, throat, mouth. I only get diarrhea once in a while. I would say I'm more constipated now. I had an upper endoscopy in April which showed mild gastritis and excessive bile in my stomach. I also had a Bravo test which showed no reflux. I know I have something going on in my throat as it feels raw and sore. I have lots of mucus. No appetite, anxiety, depression. Stomach pains. I've had an earache/jaw pain for a few months now that comes and goes. The last 3 days I have a swollen lympth gland, with a slight fever and slight body aches. I don't sleep well due the pain in my sternum/chest. It feels like a lump of food is always in my sternum. The burning also is felt on my skin in various places at various times. It seems worse when I eat or drink anything. Almost like my stomach nerves are connected to my nerves in the rest of my body. My GI dr says I have a motility problem. My question is, IF nerve damage was done from that surgery and it affected my intestines or valves, can homeopathy address that? I would like to think homeopathy can heal anything  but I know if can't grow back parts Big smile but can it heal damaged nerves? (If that is the problem) if it is a true motility issue and things just don't move right for whatever reason, can that be helped? I'm sorry if this sounds befuddled, but that is how my brain feels now. I"m exhausted from this whole thing. Mentally, physically, emotionally.

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I have seen other patients who have had their gallbladders removed, and there are often a lot of digestive symptoms - either new ones since the surgery or some old ones the did not clear up. Most of those patients had great success with homoeopathy, despite the absence of the organ (which never grew back as far as I know LOL)
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However as a sidenote, removal of an organ does lower vitality generally, and can make cure much more difficult than before the surgery.
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I too had my gallbladder removed because, as the test results showed, it was "non functioning".  Ironically enough, my stomach felt BETTER in the 6-8 months leading up to my surgery (a year ago) than it did afterwards.  I think my disappointment that the surgery didn't cure my problems contributed to additional anxiety, depression, etc.  Plus the fact that I found out I had been cut from my job didn't help.  But now, according to David's post above, I'm wondering if my continuing digestive issues have been partially because of not having a gall bladder.  I wish in some ways that I hadn't had it out-- but I was told that a diseased non-functioning gall bladder does not get better on its own, so I opted to have it out, "just to be safe".  I don't have symptoms that are any worse than before-- just not any better.  I'm hoping that the homeopathic remedy I'm taking will ameliorate my digestive symptoms in time, but I am curious about whether or not having the gb removed has made an impact on things......
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OrangePoppy,

Yes, I think there's a very good chance that homeopathy can help you.  Like David, I have seen a few patients with their gallbladder removed who wound up having worse problems than what they'd had before the operation.  I must say, as an organ was now gone, I wasn't too confident that that part could be helped.  But, to my surprise, it seems to have been one of the first things that was alleviated for them.

The more unique symptoms you have already described, should help a good homeopath to discover exactly what remedy would be best for you.  Also, why not treat the underlying cause of your original digestive issues?  Getting an organ removed does nothing for that.  Homeopathy, definitely does.

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Originally posted by OrangePoppy

Hello,

I have a question. I had my gallbladder removed in Jan 09. Since 3 days after surgery, I've had lots of burning in my intestines and stomach, throat, mouth. I only get diarrhea once in a while. I would say I'm more constipated now. I had an upper endoscopy in April which showed mild gastritis and excessive bile in my stomach. I also had a Bravo test which showed no reflux. I know I have something going on in my throat as it feels raw and sore. I have lots of mucus. No appetite, anxiety, depression. Stomach pains. I've had an earache/jaw pain for a few months now that comes and goes. The last 3 days I have a swollen lympth gland, with a slight fever and slight body aches. I don't sleep well due the pain in my sternum/chest. It feels like a lump of food is always in my sternum. The burning also is felt on my skin in various places at various times. It seems worse when I eat or drink anything. Almost like my stomach nerves are connected to my nerves in the rest of my body. My GI dr says I have a motility problem. My question is, IF nerve damage was done from that surgery and it affected my intestines or valves, can homeopathy address that? I would like to think homeopathy can heal anything  but I know if can't grow back parts Big smile but can it heal damaged nerves? (If that is the problem) if it is a true motility issue and things just don't move right for whatever reason, can that be helped? I'm sorry if this sounds befuddled, but that is how my brain feels now. I"m exhausted from this whole thing. Mentally, physically, emotionally.

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Bile reflux can occur as a complication of certain surgeries, like the gall bladder surgery Mrs. Kozma underwent. More often, though, damage to the pyloric valve results from gastric surgery — total removal of the stomach or the gastric bypass operation used to treat morbid obesity.

Occasionally, the pyloric valve is obstructed by a peptic ulcers, for example, or scar tissue, which prevents the valve from opening enough to permit quick transport of stomach contents into the intestine. That causes pressure to build up in the stomach, pushing both acid and bile into the esophagus.

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A medication called edited..( these forums do not support allopathic prescribing) can be prescribed to promote the flow of bile and reduce the symptoms and pain of bile reflux. Other drugs might be used to speed the rate at which food leaves the stomach.
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Greetings,
 I also had my gallbladder out this year in March. I have been disappointed with the outcome as my digestion went from tolerable to intolerable.  It had gotten much worse after the operation to the point that everything I eat makes my stomach gurgle, or I'm bloated and burpy... or it feels as if the food is just stuck there and not digesting.  I too have more constipation than before.
 
Sometimes It feels like I haven't gone properly for days, just little bits here and there. But then I get massive bowel pain and I am on the pot for along time and so much comes out I wondered if I had lost 10 lbs? Once it actually reminded me of a cow pile..soft and piled high in the toilet..lol... I don't think that's normal, and it can't be good for my bowels to have so much in there for long periods of time. Psychologically it's been depressing because these unpredictable bowel movements prevent me from leaving the house as much as I'd like  for  fear that I will  not be able to find a washroom quickly when I need it. ugh..or that I will be embarrassed because I am on the toilet for so long. Yikes!
 
 I do  try to drink more water and eat more veggies and switch my diet around here and there and I just can't seem to find the right combination.  I just finished a bout of infection with my ear and throat, it took about a month to get the sore throat to go away.  I have lots of mucus but this I had before the operation. I believe I have post nasal drip but you know, the funny thing is, when I have a decent bowel movement it makes my nose run even more, it does seem to be related somehow and it's not a fluke because it has happened often. Everything is connected, the trick is finding out "how"?  Right now I have been testing apple cidar vinegar out for indigestion which is when ever I get that stuck feeling.  I also try to take digestive aids like oxbile and pepsin that you can buy from healthfood stores..  I just heard about papaya for better digestion and I plan on incorporating that into my diet as well.  
 
I  do believe what you said that "nerve damage" could be the problem in our situation.  I truly think I just have to find the right diet combination.  You too just may need to get out a note book and start recording each food you eat and how it affects you.  Try the apple cider vinegar first.  It does seem to help. I hate the taste but if you're desperate like me, you'll give it a go.  I take 2 tbsp  straight up when my stomach feels so gassy and hard. Some people like to take it with  4 oz of water and a little honey.  Let me know if you have find any relief?  Your symptoms have been the closest to mine in any forum Ive read. 
 
I am hopeful that others might perhaps come across this thread and give us their two cents on the subject.  In the mean time be your health advocate, and research the foods you put into your mouth by how they affect you. It's going to take some time and effort to get it right. But I think it'll be worth it in the long haul.  We might end up with a very odd diet but with suppliments,vitamins and such, perhaps we can still have a good, decent pain free and happy life.  Good health to you !
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Well, the gall blader is a very important organ, as any other organ. It is much wiser to "fix" it with homeopathy and remove the mud and the stones with homeopathy then  to have it removed by a surgeon. The surgen has no logic in doing that.

We should know why the gall bladder gets sick and what purpose it has in the body.

The bile stored in the gall bladder is needed for digestion, without enough bile the digestive problems will increase, and that explain most problems which appear after removal of the gall bladder, as we can clearly see from the 3 cases related above. 
But we should not forget that there are big differences among people which depends of their constitution (choleric , melancholic, sanguinic , phlegmatic).

The gall bladder is not producing the bile, it is only a collector for it, which is produces by the liver. 
The body produces about 600-700 ml bile between the meals, which is stored in the gall blader, ready to be deliver when eating. When the gall blader has been removed, there will be not enough bile stored for a complete digestion, so people without the gall bladder would 
eat slower and less and should avoid food which requires a lot of gall to be digested (hard to digest food, fats, etc). When the gall bladder is filled with gall stones, there will be less space in the bladder to store the bile.

We should also know that the main thing which affect the gall blader is the fury/anger,
be it expressed anger or the one not shown and kept inside. 

We should also know that when people get angry there will be an excess of the bile which will mix with the blood, poisoning it. The bile used in the the stomach is recollected by some veins back to the liver, in order too be reused.  When someone will produce too much bile because of an anger, the excess of this bile will get somehow into the blood.

The bile is only good for digestion and it is poisonous for the rest of the body. The bile contains cholesterine, lecithin, bilirubin and biliverdin and many other substances.
If the bile gets into the blood it will thicken it and will affect in a negative way the whole body and also the state of the mind.

Another function of the bladder, unknown by the medicine, is that when the carbon if filtered out from the nutritional blood gathered from the small intestines blood vessels, this is partially sent to the gal bladder and partially stored in the fat tissues.
 
Reumatism, gout, migrene, pains, cramps, sadness, depression are only a few of the effects of the bile poisoning the blood. I suppose that the main reason for the high cholesterin values nowdays is the anger and its effect: the blood thickened by the frequent excess of the bile and the proof for that is the cholesterine in the blood.

Now the question is how fast will a person remove the bile from the blood before affecting organs or being stored in the organs, joints, or thickening all other secretion causing chronic diseases.

In order to understand this process we need to also look at the type of blood and constitution that the people have.

In the 4 different constitution types set by Hippocrates the differences are made by quality and quantity of the 4 liquids  found in the body : blood (sanguine), yellow bile (choleric), black bile (melancholic) and all other secretions like lymph, mucous, etc (phlegmatic),.

It is little known that people who get easily angry but are able to show their anger (Nux vomica type) generally do not produce sufficient yellow bile. So this people suffer actually from a chronic insufficiency of bile production.

The main job of the yellow bile is to excrete, digest and absorb fats, but its hot, sharp, mildly irritating quality also acts to stimulate peristaltic movement and the defecation reflex in the large intestine.  This makes bile the body's own natural laxative. Normal healthy bile is what colors the stool a rich, dark brown; stools that are too light in color usually lack sufficient bile.

That is why probably a Nux vomica type has often the symptom CONSTIPATION, because it lacks a sufficient quantity of bile at the digestion. 

But the advantage of this type of constitution with a fast and excitable blood is that when they do get angry, they are able to eliminate fast the bile from the blood. 

This is not the case for people with a slow blood, who do get angry but more internally and who are not able to express the anger and discharge immediately from their anger.
They will tend to keep the anger inside. Many of this last type have usually a thick blood (even from birth) and can be easily excited even by unimportant matters but they are not capable of expressing or discharging the anger right away, thus being affected by the bile in the blood. Among these people there are specially women.

Because of this reason, their blood will be permanent mixed with bile and thus all secretions in the body will be thickened by this thick blood mixed with bile. 

The most important problems with gall bladder problems is to avoid anger of any kind, which is probably not an easy goal to achieve.

In order to fix that problems with the bile and gall bladder a good diet is needed and avoiding all kinds of anger is required. For the people without the gall bladder we should also take in consideration the constitution and also the fact that without the gall bladder there is automatically less bile to use for the digestion process.

Since the whole digestion is a process of fermentation, this process depends of some factors:

 - The fermentation capability of the food. Food capable of fermentation requires less bile than the one not or less capable of fermentation.   Dry food, fat and meat requires much more bile than fruits and vegetables for example. Same with different type of bread or with pasta. Pasta is not easy to digest .  Uncooked cereals (muesli) cannot be easily digested either. This does not mean that food which leads to fermentation - like apple juice or yeast - is good! 
Too much fermentation is as bad as eating too fat or too dry food. Many unripe fruits, cabbage, broccoli and similar thing will ferment too much.

 The golden rule here is: cooked, warm and light food is better and much easier to digest while fresh fruits and salads are  less good and depending of the constitution can create more or less problems. 

    - The oxigen in the blood. Fermentation needs oxygen. There are some veins which bring oxygen rich blood from the lungs directly to the liver.
  If the air in which somebody is eating is fresh and with a lot of oxigen this help the digestion. 
  If is is not fresh or smoky (restaurants), it will have a negative effect on the digestive process. In order to have  enough oxygen in the blood it would be better to do some walking (5-10 minutes) in fresh air BEFORE the meals and shortly after and  open the windows for some minutes prior of having the meal to exchange the air.
   
 - The time. Eating too fast it will make it difficult for the body to produce enough bile for the
  food coming into the duodenum. This is specially important for absence of the gall bladder. Chewing longer it will make the food less diggestable, the saliva contains
  enzimes which help making the food easier to digest.

 - The temperature. The liver needs heat to work and it can produce it too, but the main heat which triggers starts the liver comes from the spleen.   The spleen is damaged when drinking cold drinks. A cold drink before meals or during meals, or cold food, will affect not only the spleen but also the heat of the stomach and of the liver so thus it will effect digestion. For a god fermentation we need a certain temperature which should not go low during this process. That is why in certain asian countries people used to drink only warm tea while having a meal.  Cold food and salads before meals are not good at all for people with gall bladder problems or with a removed one.
  
  - the quantity and quality of the bile. This depends of the constitution and of the liver/gall-blader problems. In a nervous and hot tempered constitution for example there will be too little bile by default, while in others too much or the bile is too weak.
   
Taking into consideration these factors would mean a lot of improvement for people with gall bladder problems or with a removed one, but for every person who want to live healthy is good 
not to ignore this.

People with thick blood should avoid fat, alcohol, sweets and should avoid mistakes in the diet because one single day can spoil the whole diet made a lot of weeks before.
For this kind of people fresh fruits are not indicated either, especially when eaten after noon. In this case cooked fruits are better and also recommended (simply forget the allopathic vitamin theory, it is not true, just look at the eskimos) . Having periods of fastening in springs and autumn will help cleansing the blood.
 
Many homeopathic remedies act actually on the bile production or help eliminating the bile in the blood, and here is the main reason for many symptoms people have.

We know the Pulsatilla constitution, a mainly female constitution, which has a big problem digesting fat, ice cream (=fat), and pasta/pastry (difficult to digest), which all 

require a lot of bile and shows also some of their problem with the bile adn the thick blood. They belong to the persons who have fast emotions and are easy to get angry, but in the same time 
their blood will not easily get rid of the bile from the blood like a Nux vomica type. 
Pulsatilla will have all kind of symptoms from the bile in the blood.

Their thicker blood is shown in the tendency to make varices in the legs. If we take the rubric "Varices, lower extremities" we will found PULS, LYC, CALC, but we will not find Nux-v.

Bile in the blood is also the main organic cause for depressions, melancholy (black bile = melanche), changes of moods, bad mood, irritability, etc.

P.S. I had to add something I have forgotten: coffee  (and all products which contain coffein  - coffee, black tea, green tea, guarana, coca cola & pepsi ) is in top 3 of the things to be avoided when having digestive problems and specially when having blood or nerve affections.

I add here also a simple method of eliminating the bile from the blood: boil 20-30 ml of good red wine and when it stars boiling  pour 20-30 ml of cold water in it and then take it from the fire.
Drink it warm, in small sips not too fast.  It has very little alcohol, it eliminates the bile, gives sleep and makes happy. For cholerics, sad people  and the ones who cannot fall asleep. 

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That is wonderful information Scarface, and it makes good sense.  I can NOW see some changes I need to make in my diet in view of your information as I've been eating too many raw fruits and veggies and the wrong kinds ( broccoli and cauliflower) because I do have alot of gas build up. I am going to try cooking them softly and really stay away from processed,starchy and sugary foods and see if that helps.  I am also going to see if I can find a good homeopathic doctor that is fully informed on the gallbladder as I think it will be easier to come to the right conclusions on my personality type.  I don't know whether I'm naturally easily angered or if its hormones or what??haha!!! Thank you so much for sharing all that information. 
 
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Is there some way in finding out the credentials of a homeopathic doctor that would tell me he/she is current on gallbladder issues or do they all know how to treat a person without one?? In other words, do they all know about the information you have written?  I really like that information.
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Yes, Scarface, just wonderful!  I really like the way you explained this, too!  I sort of knew bits and pieces of what you said, but really like the way you tied it all together.  That is going into my personal Medical Guide for reference, if you don't mind.

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@Tmm .  I doubt that you will find a second person to know all that above. Unfortunately this is a seldom knowledge and it is not the kind of stuff to be taught somewhere. But you do not need such a doctor if you have the information yourself. The homeopath can  help without knowing all this and the diet is anyway up to you.

@Avril thank you ! I sorted my mind too a lot by putting this to to ... e-paper  :-)  Regards !

After writing this I realized the CARBO-V is in a lot of rubrics connected with the gall-bladder affections and it might have something to do with the distortion present when the carbon cannot be fished out from the blood due to the damage of the bladder. Probably using Carbo-v in bilious problems together with another remedy (PULS or LYC or other) would help cleanse the blood in a faster way and eliminate the carbon which spoils the blood and keeps the body sick.

PULS and CARB-V share 3848 symptoms in Schroens in the repertory (from total of 7349 symptoms of CARB-V)

PULS, CARB-V and LYC share 1807 symptoms in Murphy.
I guess CARB-V given often - in not a too high potency - in bilious affections would do some important service , even when it is no indicated.  It will help take the carbon away from the blood. I just remembered now that I helped a girl lately with CARB-V C200 in a very obstinate biliar affection where I tried a lot of remedies with only a little success.  That time I did not know about the carbon issue in the blood due to bad digestion. If somebody tries that, please report.

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After surgical removal of GB . one can use homoeo medicine edited (this site does not encourage off-hand remedy suggestions without relevant references) which controls secretion of bile from this medicine may be helpful for you.
 
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I have tried the simple method of eliminating the bile from the blood by boiling red wine, but so far it has not worked for me. I have this terrible itching all over my body after taking bath, and sometimes after eating i feel like sth thick is in my penis and anus.. I've this bile reflux for over 12yrs now, my doctor told me that i have to keeping changing my diet till i find the right diet for me.. I'm psychologically down cuz of this sickness.. My priority now is to eliminate the bile from the blood so the terrible itching and fluid-like movt in my anus/penis will stop..
 
I need your advice and opinion..
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Well, the gall blader is a very important organ, as any other organ. It is much wiser to "fix" it with homeopathy and remove the mud and the stones with homeopathy then  to have it removed by a surgeon. The surgen has no logic in doing that.

We should know why the gall bladder gets sick and what purpose it has in the body.

The bile stored in the gall bladder is needed for digestion, without enough bile the digestive problems will increase, and that explain most problems which appear after removal of the gall bladder, as we can clearly see from the 3 cases related above. 
But we should not forget that there are big differences among people which depends of their constitution (choleric , melancholic, sanguinic , phlegmatic).

The gall bladder is not producing the bile, it is only a collector for it, which is produces by the liver. 
The body produces about 600-700 ml bile between the meals, which is stored in the gall blader, ready to be deliver when eating. When the gall blader has been removed, there will be not enough bile stored for a complete digestion, so people without the gall bladder would 
eat slower and less and should avoid food which requires a lot of gall to be digested (hard to digest food, fats, etc). When the gall bladder is filled with gall stones, there will be less space in the bladder to store the bile.

We should also know that the main thing which affect the gall blader is the fury/anger,
be it expressed anger or the one not shown and kept inside. 

We should also know that when people get angry there will be an excess of the bile which will mix with the blood, poisoning it. The bile used in the the stomach is recollected by some veins back to the liver, in order too be reused.  When someone will produce too much bile because of an anger, the excess of this bile will get somehow into the blood.

The bile is only good for digestion and it is poisonous for the rest of the body. The bile contains cholesterine, lecithin, bilirubin and biliverdin and many other substances.
If the bile gets into the blood it will thicken it and will affect in a negative way the whole body and also the state of the mind.

Another function of the bladder, unknown by the medicine, is that when the carbon if filtered out from the nutritional blood gathered from the small intestines blood vessels, this is partially sent to the gal bladder and partially stored in the fat tissues.
 
Reumatism, gout, migrene, pains, cramps, sadness, depression are only a few of the effects of the bile poisoning the blood. I suppose that the main reason for the high cholesterin values nowdays is the anger and its effect: the blood thickened by the frequent excess of the bile and the proof for that is the cholesterine in the blood.

Now the question is how fast will a person remove the bile from the blood before affecting organs or being stored in the organs, joints, or thickening all other secretion causing chronic diseases.

In order to understand this process we need to also look at the type of blood and constitution that the people have.

In the 4 different constitution types set by Hippocrates the differences are made by quality and quantity of the 4 liquids  found in the body : blood (sanguine), yellow bile (choleric), black bile (melancholic) and all other secretions like lymph, mucous, etc (phlegmatic),.

It is little known that people who get easily angry but are able to show their anger (Nux vomica type) generally do not produce sufficient yellow bile. So this people suffer actually from a chronic insufficiency of bile production.

The main job of the yellow bile is to excrete, digest and absorb fats, but its hot, sharp, mildly irritating quality also acts to stimulate peristaltic movement and the defecation reflex in the large intestine.  This makes bile the body's own natural laxative. Normal healthy bile is what colors the stool a rich, dark brown; stools that are too light in color usually lack sufficient bile.

That is why probably a Nux vomica type has often the symptom CONSTIPATION, because it lacks a sufficient quantity of bile at the digestion. 

But the advantage of this type of constitution with a fast and excitable blood is that when they do get angry, they are able to eliminate fast the bile from the blood. 

This is not the case for people with a slow blood, who do get angry but more internally and who are not able to express the anger and discharge immediately from their anger.
They will tend to keep the anger inside. Many of this last type have usually a thick blood (even from birth) and can be easily excited even by unimportant matters but they are not capable of expressing or discharging the anger right away, thus being affected by the bile in the blood. Among these people there are specially women.

Because of this reason, their blood will be permanent mixed with bile and thus all secretions in the body will be thickened by this thick blood mixed with bile. 

The most important problems with gall bladder problems is to avoid anger of any kind, which is probably not an easy goal to achieve.

In order to fix that problems with the bile and gall bladder a good diet is needed and avoiding all kinds of anger is required. For the people without the gall bladder we should also take in consideration the constitution and also the fact that without the gall bladder there is automatically less bile to use for the digestion process.

Since the whole digestion is a process of fermentation, this process depends of some factors:

 - The fermentation capability of the food. Food capable of fermentation requires less bile than the one not or less capable of fermentation.   Dry food, fat and meat requires much more bile than fruits and vegetables for example. Same with different type of bread or with pasta. Pasta is not easy to digest .  Uncooked cereals (muesli) cannot be easily digested either. This does not mean that food which leads to fermentation - like apple juice or yeast - is good! 
Too much fermentation is as bad as eating too fat or too dry food. Many unripe fruits, cabbage, broccoli and similar thing will ferment too much.

 The golden rule here is: cooked, warm and light food is better and much easier to digest while fresh fruits and salads are  less good and depending of the constitution can create more or less problems. 

    - The oxigen in the blood. Fermentation needs oxygen. There are some veins which bring oxygen rich blood from the lungs directly to the liver.
  If the air in which somebody is eating is fresh and with a lot of oxigen this help the digestion. 
  If is is not fresh or smoky (restaurants), it will have a negative effect on the digestive process. In order to have  enough oxygen in the blood it would be better to do some walking (5-10 minutes) in fresh air BEFORE the meals and shortly after and  open the windows for some minutes prior of having the meal to exchange the air.
   
 - The time. Eating too fast it will make it difficult for the body to produce enough bile for the
  food coming into the duodenum. This is specially important for absence of the gall bladder. Chewing longer it will make the food less diggestable, the saliva contains
  enzimes which help making the food easier to digest.

 - The temperature. The liver needs heat to work and it can produce it too, but the main heat which triggers starts the liver comes from the spleen.   The spleen is damaged when drinking cold drinks. A cold drink before meals or during meals, or cold food, will affect not only the spleen but also the heat of the stomach and of the liver so thus it will effect digestion. For a god fermentation we need a certain temperature which should not go low during this process. That is why in certain asian countries people used to drink only warm tea while having a meal.  Cold food and salads before meals are not good at all for people with gall bladder problems or with a removed one.
  
  - the quantity and quality of the bile. This depends of the constitution and of the liver/gall-blader problems. In a nervous and hot tempered constitution for example there will be too little bile by default, while in others too much or the bile is too weak.
   
Taking into consideration these factors would mean a lot of improvement for people with gall bladder problems or with a removed one, but for every person who want to live healthy is good 
not to ignore this.

People with thick blood should avoid fat, alcohol, sweets and should avoid mistakes in the diet because one single day can spoil the whole diet made a lot of weeks before.
For this kind of people fresh fruits are not indicated either, especially when eaten after noon. In this case cooked fruits are better and also recommended (simply forget the allopathic vitamin theory, it is not true, just look at the eskimos) . Having periods of fastening in springs and autumn will help cleansing the blood.
 
Many homeopathic remedies act actually on the bile production or help eliminating the bile in the blood, and here is the main reason for many symptoms people have.

We know the Pulsatilla constitution, a mainly female constitution, which has a big problem digesting fat, ice cream (=fat), and pasta/pastry (difficult to digest), which all 

require a lot of bile and shows also some of their problem with the bile adn the thick blood. They belong to the persons who have fast emotions and are easy to get angry, but in the same time 
their blood will not easily get rid of the bile from the blood like a Nux vomica type. 
Pulsatilla will have all kind of symptoms from the bile in the blood.

Their thicker blood is shown in the tendency to make varices in the legs. If we take the rubric "Varices, lower extremities" we will found PULS, LYC, CALC, but we will not find Nux-v.

Bile in the blood is also the main organic cause for depressions, melancholy (black bile = melanche), changes of moods, bad mood, irritability, etc.

P.S. I had to add something I have forgotten: coffee  (and all products which contain coffein  - coffee, black tea, green tea, guarana, coca cola & pepsi ) is in top 3 of the things to be avoided when having digestive problems and specially when having blood or nerve affections.

I add here also a simple method of eliminating the bile from the blood: boil 20-30 ml of good red wine and when it stars boiling  pour 20-30 ml of cold water in it and then take it from the fire.
Drink it warm, in small sips not too fast.  It has very little alcohol, it eliminates the bile, gives sleep and makes happy. For cholerics, sad people  and the ones who cannot fall asleep. 



Hello Scarface,
I just came back to this thread and see your replies, thank you for these. I am still suffering with the burning throughout my body, including my stomach, mouth, chest, skin and intestines. The diarrhea has been helped, with the addition of probiotics. However this morning, I had the yellow bile diarrhea right after I drank 2 large glasses of warm water as soon as I got up. I usually only have one glass. I also have a hiatal hernia and I read drinking a lot of water and then jumping off the the second step helps pull it back down. I don't think it worked. I was reading someone else's response here and I also have a weirdness of when I have my bowel movement in the morning, my nose runs more. I still have really thick mucus in my throat. I don't know if it's from the reflux or post nasel drip.
I was seeing a homeopath about a year ago and received several different remedies. (I can't remember which ones now) and nothing seemed to help.

I have been eating a lot of seeds, nuts, yogurt, to help keep some weight on me. I can't eat much of any refined carbs due to blood sugar issues. I haven't tried the boiled wine yet.

The burning I feel actually feels toxic.

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Hi, the boiled wine is actually not for your kind of disease, but for the sadness or anger due to the excess of bile IN THE BLOOD. You have a digestion problem too, which is not alone a bile issue.
I could help somebody lately with Acidum muriaticum C9 in a similar case, given without any repertorisation, but from the knowledge of too much acid in the stomach causing the burning symptoms in stomach ans esophagus. The effect of the remedy was spectacular.
Check the symptoms of Acidum muriaticum and give it try if you it some matching you.



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